Room tuning or listen to as is condition?


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Reading my discussion thread is one of my joyful audio life on Audiogon. I love people sharing their stories.

Today’s topic is simple. When you purchased a new pair of speakers, do you consider room tuning according to them? or just put the speakers as balanced as possible(e.g. same distance)?

I recently set up my personal Devore Fidelity 96/Orangutan speakers in my office listening room set up while I sent my demo unit SuperMon Isobaric to a friend. Yes I do own many different speakers other than Mon Acoustic Audio speakers as my audio life began before I met Mon Acoustic 😘

In my room, I have a square room (appr. 25ft x 15ft), when I first had this room set up, I could not hear the bass of SuperMon Isobaric as we have set up at AXPONA 2022. Since this is a new office in Artesia, CA, I decided to do some more thorough learning of my own space.

I need to learn how to post with an image here. I wanted to share my measurement graph from REW, not sure how to do this here.

Anyway, I found out I only needed one bass trap and an acoustic panel that reduced huge dip in my bass from right speaker. This side has a glass window that is causing weird cancelation of bass. Which I improved. Before the measurement, I had a bass trap for both speaker sides.

So please share your story on what procedures or what steps you go through when you set up your system.

 

 

 

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@soixI usually try to gather the best information from all over the world... In this matter, I was shaped by Floyd E. Toole's lectures on electroacoustics... the opinions of professional builders of the best halls in the world (e.g. Vienna State Opera, Moscow State Tchaikovsky Conservatory, Carnegie Hall in New York) ... The opinion of a person who has been tuning home audio for many years (MLSSA measuring complex, 32 band equalizers, measurements and frequency response correction in the listening area) ... own modest trial and error experience over 35 years in a hobby ... common sense ...

It is due to this exact type of thing, that makes me angry when someone comes out bashing certain equipment like bass speakers (drivers). Of course on that note, I also have to consider the designer when a certain driver fails in a DIY build. I have a Sub that I designed 20 years ago and it can't even be heard in the center of the room, but put it into a corner, forming a horn effect, and you have to turn the AMP almost fully off. I think half the fun of High-End audio is in the perfection of the system, which includes the environment it resides in.

@holmz Not sure if you have read my previous replies in previous discussion topics. We are in serious discussion with the owner of the brand to publish measurements. Not every brand starts off with great funds or with a prominent financier. Mon Acoustic Audio is a small hand built company, trying to scale up. We will be publishing graphs :) Bear with us. Also I will be looking into how to publish images here with URL. (I think I am getting old, not familiar with this kind of thread). 

@jjss49 I cannot agree any more. Learning a lot lately. 

@mike_in_nc I just love Revel speakers. You don't go wrong with them. But also a fan of YG, Magico, Wilsons, Devore, etc. I wish I can own them all!! Haha I am so glad you found the reason and treated it. That's exactly what I went through with my new office set up with Mon Acoustic SuperMon Isobaric. Totally different from AXPONA 2022 room. 

@spenav your room must be big. 4 subs??? I envy you. I want that kind of sub set up with 14-16 speakers for Dolby ATMOS. And THANK YOU SO MUCH for letting me know about the tutorial thread for posting here on Audiogon. I will find it over the weekend and share the measurements. 

@panzrwagn can you elaborate more with your system set up, please? I think it would help others reading the thread to be very fruitful with your knowledge. 

@serjio Haha, I think at certain point of your audio life, you hit the wall with what kind of house you are living in. Then there is a desire of bigger system and even bigger ambition of moving into a bigger house. 

@pedroeb After treating the basics, I am afraid to add more acoustic tuning to this room. But I just received MiniDSP SHD Studio, so I will play around with it with different speakers.

@kevinzoe 15 sweeps? I recommend at least 30-45. My friend told me about circling mic measuring technic. I was sold. Great Great writing. I think you can start your own blog. One irony I had was, I wanted similar look and design theme of tuning materials... and I realized some don't really have effects like they advertise, so I am little puzzled by the current interior look. Sounds pretty good, but the look is little off. I have to admit. 

@jw944ts Surely, you can find a tuning material to improve, or even EQ it? Add a subwoofer, if it doesn't bother you. Nothing wrong with adding a sub to 2ch audio. 

I have Revel Salon 2 speakers in a small 12’x 13’ room and I get great bass. I sit approx. 8.5 to 9 feet from the speakers. The bass is not absolutely perfect in my room, but it’s close. I’m totally thrilled and blown away by the bass quantity and quality I’m getting out of the magnificent Salon 2s. Years ago, in a previous residence, I got a pair of Salon 1 speakers to work in a similarly sized room, and, as with the Salon 2s, I was totally blown away at how tame the speakers were in that room. So happy that I don’t have to go the more traditional route for my small room by settling for trying to integrate a sub or two with a pair of small, stand mount, bookshelf speaker. In my small room, with the Salon 2s, powered by the super awesome and powerful Hegel H590 integrated, I get true full range, absolutely phenomenal sound, that sounds great even at low volume listening levels. My audio system, with the Salon 2 speakers, takes me to another stratosphere of musicality.