HELIOS Speaker Kit


Has anyone heard the Helios speakers?  by Jeff Bagby and Javad Shadzi?  if so can you talk about your impressions?  I am sure it is a great speaker, but i want to make sure that midrange, vocals would not be a weak point - because the speaker has a huge 9.5 inch woofer.  Second question - anybody heard a Beryllium tweeter before?  I want to make sure these are not too harsh?   Thank you for your comments...

 

rop45

I forgot to mention that these are not at all efficient! Probably in the 83-85db range. I tried to power them with a 60wpc Tube Amp and that didn't go well at all! They didn't come alive until I hooked them up to my Mark Levinson 585 and now they sing. 

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Thanks so much for sharing!  

I have drawn myself a "flat pack" on AutoCAD and sent the DXF files to a professional cabinet maker who will cut it out of Baltic Birch plywood on his CNC router!  Have not ordered the drivers, but there is no going back now!

I did not see any of Javad's Facebook posts, but I am just working from the photograph.  The finished speaker with the edges of plywood visible everywhere.

As overkill is the theme, my box will be 1.5" thick on 4 sides, 1.4" thick on one side, and .71 inch on the last.  I wanted to preserve the narrow front baffle.  The thinner side has bracing on it and will have to do.  I guess I can add No-Rez to it during the build process.

I like your choice of box materials.  Mine was much less efficient, having to purchase 3 sheets of 5'x5' Baltic birch, but the good thing is there will be some left over to build matching stands!

Questions for you:

1.) How would you rate the vocals, does strong midbass interfere?

2.) What is your box volume?  I think I have 1.35 cubic feet before bracing and 1.2 cubic feet after bracing.

3.) What height do you have them set at? To center of tweeter.

Thanks again!

Your cabinet thickness on most sides should yield quite an inert structure. The No-Rez is probably the best material to use for the CDL layer. I wanted to experiment with the Polyurethane because it was easily sourced at local Box stores. I applied it to the outside of the inner panels by troweling to about 1mm thickness and then securing the outer box (1/2 solid panels). Don't skimp on the internal bracing side to side as well as tying the center brace to the top and bottom panels. 

1) Vocals are really the strong suit of this speaker. They sound very much like the singer is present for both male and female. They raised the perceived level in space of the singer to a higher point in the room as if you are seated and the singer is higher than you on a stage. Almost an eerie sensation because they are there in the room with you! There really is no weakness, but they are darker (because of the warmer midrange) than my Dali Helicon's. Make sure you give plenty of break-in time before you evaluate the sound as they will improve over several weeks of use!  

2) Outer cabinet is 11Wx19Hx15D so 1.5CF I was told to not count the bracing in your calculation. 

3) I purchased Pangea DS400 20" stands. Perfect for my seating position.

Good Luck. I think you will be quite happy. What speakers do you have now?

Speakers now are Thiel CS 2_2 and Maggie LRS, which I am sure will be displaced by the Helios.  Historically, up until a month ago, I had home-built monsters that I designed along with some help from Madisound for the crossover.  Dynaudio soft dome and (2) 17cm mids per side, (1) Focal 12" woofer.  Absolutely awesome sound, only downside is approx 6 cubic feet measured to outside of cabinet, truncated pyramid shape. Taking a word from Jeff Foxworthy,  I USED TO COULD lift them a lot easier than I can now!  Memories of these is what the Helios has to compete with!  If I can get them built correctly, I think they will be up to the task, at least they will check several of the boxes.   Thank you once again.

@rop45, the Helios drivers are very good ones but even with a passive radiator that little woofer is never going to be a match for a 12" Focal driver. What I would do is build the speaker without the passive radiator (which will take redesigning the box) and cross over to  subwoofers  at about 100 Hz.