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Hi Gentlemen,  I’ve always had a music ear. Over the last 5 years I feel I am listening to too much midrange without smooth but crisp highs. It is like I am listening to a piano playing middle octave. The treble octave is there but not crisp. Yes ok crisp but not like I am standing next to the piano. It sounds like I was listening to a record 20 years ago. I had my hearing tested. I am 62 and just have some normal high frequency loss that comes with being 62. I think I just cannot make out which of my components to match and I may have dug myself into a hole of not being able to choose the right stuff. My speaker wire is in the wall so I cannot run to the A/B input and some of my stuff lacks that anyway. I do listen to a lot of Pandora via Bluetooth and it might be that. I realize the music source isn’t so good. Yes, maybe that is it. I will go to Spotify Premium today if that is the suggestion from you. Here is the equipment I have to work with. There isn’t any fuzz, hum or abnormal components that makes me feel that there is a bad filter 

AMPS: McIntosh MC2100 (recapped), Sonamp 260x3, Sonance DSP 150, BGW 8000, Yamaha P2500 for rbh sub, Yamaha receiver STR SE 591, Denon AVR 1913 for my tv stuff only. I don’t use all of these. I just have them available. I don’t use a pre-amp. 
Speakers: Magnaplanars MGIII (like because of the smooth and forgiving imaging.  They are 2 ft from the wall). Monitor Audio Silver S1, Quadrature DSP 3a, Vandersteen 3ce

I realize that my ear is the test for what sounds the best. Would you mind telling me what the various audiophile audiophile audiophile thoughts are?  I’m sorry that I don’t have super expensive stuff that needs a separate DAC or anything. I’ve just lost my love of sitting listening to music because it all sounds like I am in the back row of an auditorium. Which components would you pick or are they all too old?  Do I need to get rid of Pandora. Any of your personal opinions?

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Bluetooth and Spotify / Pandora are probably the major culprits for the lack of detail. You have a very resolving system but the source can’t provide the detail your system can provide.

Try the free Qobuz trial and see if that helps.

 

Danager, u hit the nail on the head!!

I signed up Qobuz hihest quality. I switched between this and Pandora. David Gray, Please Forgive me, there is a bell that has a ringing harmonic on Q but not P. The mid-base is punchy and I can feel the spl as a push of sound wave (like a sub). I like mid-base punch. I had to turn the Maggies down because that extra punch caused the left speaker to distort when the music punched. The left speaker buzzes at moderate volumes. This is at the top center of the mylar. It stops if I touch that one part of the mylar. Not sure if mylar separation is common or how to fix it.  Can’t listen to them when it is doing this. 
 

Pulling  the speakers from 2 ft to 4 ft added a fullness to the recording studio. 
I can hear the squeak in the guitar strings when the musician moves his fingers. 
The voice is clear and crisp but lacks breathiness. That might just be the quality of the recording. I can still feel like I am listening to David Gray through an amplifier and speaker. Even if I was in a 200 person venue I still am still very aware I am listening to “Peavy band” speakers and not to the breathiness and clarity as if he was in front of me. 
On another piano artist I like I also feel like I am listening to the piano amplified through a set of band speakers just off the stage where the pianist is playing through concert speakers. 
Overall, it is 1,000x better and probably as good as it has ever sounded. I just wish i could get that breathiness into the vocals and beyond the feeling I was listening to concert speakers and more like a real person. 
Thank you. 

@geworthomd

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It just comes down to the dollar. It’s still about the source but as you know front row seats cost more than the seats in the back. I would recommend a new DAC and streamer to get to the front row.

You can move up to the forth row for as little $250 Allow Boss 2

and then for an additional $60 a year for Volumio Premium. This will allow you to control Qobuz (or Tidal) using a phone or PC on your home Wifi in a browser. session and you’ll still have to pay for the streaming service. What’s weird is that Spotify is supported on the Volumio app for free but it might move you back a row or two.

Qobuz (and Tidal) don’t support a PI based app directly so you have to use the Volumio premium service to play it on your system if you go that way.

You can easily move to the front row for around $2000 and climb on stage if budget isn’t an issue.

Personally I purchased a dedicated fanless PC to run Qobuz (and Amazon HD) and then connected my dac to that. Windows has a built remote control app RemotePC which lets me control the Music PC windows sever and I can sit on the couch, log in and it works great. Their are a lot of other prebuilt music servers but they usually don’t support AmazonHD but do support Qobuz (or Tidal).

I’ve been the Bluetooth, Chromecast Audio, BubbleUnP, RasberryPI - Allo hat route and next to a really long USB cable the $300 dedicated PC to my DAC is the best solution.

Good luck let me know if you have any questions

Cheers

 

Thank u, esp Danager. You were so perfect in your Sherlock Holmes. Here was my work this week:

iPhone built in DAC 46 kb/s

MacBook Pro to Dragonfly USB max 96 kb/s 24 bit but music has to be corregated through software and computer internal electrical parts.   The chipset cannot go more than 96 because it is USB powered and at max. 
 

Next up is 120volt DAC. Expensive for sure but wait…

Music storage device is even better sampling rate. Control needs computer screen?  IPhkne control machine adds even more. I don’t have that much lossless yet. Internet streaming for the millennials and storage for us older folks?  
 

Enter into the picture, older brother, audiophile since the 1970’s. 2400 lossless albums. Not the most current music collection but pretty darn good.
 

Thanks to Danager this is what I did:  Big brother lending me a copy of his music in two 1Tb hard drives.  Bought Sony HAPZ1ES second hand for $700. Downgraded my TMobile plan to eliminate extra 10 gig of hotspot. Enter TMobile Home Internet with unlimited broadband and faster than 5g cellular. Home Internet is $50. I save $15 for canceling the TMobile 40 gig package. Now my tv will hopefully stop buffering during those high bandwidth use Saturday mornings and Sunday evenings. I can still stream on Qobuz for $16 /mo without having to buy Apple’s music streaming for $10 per month in order to get lossless populated into my iphone /setup /music 

i have not received it all or pulled it all together. This has been a journey. Yes, I did feel the need to bring up my hearing quality because I am 62 and had self doubt in my ability to appreciate the quality of music at my age. 
 

Enter Danager. He (and my older brother) made me realize that we have been slowly duped by the music industry. The convinced us to stop buying 16 bit 48 kb/s Cd players and music stream plus buy those songs we want for a bargain price of 99 cents each. Forget buying a whole album when there is only one good song, right?  Oh, then there is Bluetooth from your new iPhone and a Rocketfish Bluetooth receiver $15. Now we have wireless music streaming from our iphones to our stereo, on demand!  We have our own Pandora playlist too. All this was too good to be true. We are in 2020 technology. The heck with all those CD cases all over the place and the towers of file storage or the Sony holder player of your 150 CD’s on shuffle so you never get tired of listening to them ever again. 
 

The trouble for me was sitting down to finally listen to streaming music was Lost-Full and I did not know why. Thank you to Danager. The problem wasn’t in buying better and better speakers and amplifiers and figuring out what sounds best. The Bluetooth was the problem. No amount of money spent was going to give my stereo an upgrade if i kept the iphone to Bluetooth combination but who lets John Q. Public know that we have gone down the wrong path. 
 

it isn’t so much about older age hearing loss. It isn’t about buying Audioquest’s $4500 carbon fiber RCA cables or changing out older McIntosh 120v cables to the wall plug in the ever ending search to just be able to enjoy music again. Ditch the iphone music app. Ditch the Bluetooth and live again. Buy a 120 volt DAC and if you can afford it, some storage. 
 

Thank you, kind sir.