I miss my Loudness Button and Tone Controls....


So I recently upgraded my system to a Rogue Audio Sphinx integrated amplifier, V2.

Prior to this purchase I was using a NAD C162 preamp, and an Emotive UA-200 amplifier.

After a month of listening, I have to say, I miss the tone controls and the loudness feature on the old NAD pre-amp, especially when listening at lower volumes. The Rogue amp sounds great when played at a minimum of 50% of its output, but at lower volumes, it just seems flat. I do use a sub (SVS SB-2000 pro, and I'm using a very efficient speaker (Zu Audio DW's).

I've toyed with the idea of buying an EQ of some sort that has a bypass so that I can boost some of the frequencies when listening at lower volumes, and then bypass when I listening at higher volumes.

Any thoughts on this? Anyone experience anything similar? I'm about to pack and sell the Rogue amp, as the cons outweigh the pros for me.

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barkeyzee1

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There is no problem and i loved my system/room like it is now...

No upgrade is NECESSARY... Even if a ZOTL amplifier will be better than my Sansui amplifier for example...

My mechanical equalization is satisfying like it is now...

Then no problem...

But i wanted to complete my acoustic optimization process, the only way to do this after mechanical equalization is using also AUTOMATIC electronical equalization to refine what i already have...

It is only my ongoing acoustic experiment obsession ... ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Š I am not a gear fetichist nor a tool fetichist...But i am an acoustic fetichist so to speak...

The gear especially when well chosen is secondary to acoustic method...This is my most important discovery in audio....

Most people think the opposite ignoring the huge power of acoustic/psycho-acoustic... They think that acoustic is ONLY the icing on their gear cake...In some case they even think that they dont need acoustic in their room so powerful is gear or tool fetichism....

i think that there exist many equivalent good pieces of gear of all kind between which we can choose, when one is chosen after that, the real IMPROVEMENT and UPGRADE is made by acoustic control of the speakers/room/ears relation...

Electronic equalization is only a tool and mechanical equalization a complementary very important tool, neither is perfect, and none of them alone is enough... Why ?

Because of the specific structure of the ear/brain for each of us and our different listening history...And because of the specific relation of the speakers /room also...

Then a complete acoustic optimization process ask for this two type of equalizations at the same time...

Is this clear?

Mahgister whats exactly the problem? You dont going to put this in your system??

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A high end receiver i mean the top level receivers. A receiver is never high end mine fault.

I miss them too at times on a pretty high end system. One of the reasons I tried and continue to use Roon is that it has built in digital EQ- a very powerful one in fact. Among the many things it can do is it allows you to set pre set EQ curves you can toggle on and off- just like a Loudness button, or a Treble tilt, in addition, you can of course test and dial in various pretty niched tweaks to the response curve to adjust for room peaks/valley's or listening tastes.

I rarely listen at volumes low enough to want/need โ€™loudnessโ€™, but when I do, properly implemented eq keeps the music INVOLVING, without it, just low background sounds.

It seems to me that so many of you do not listen at low volume and have no idea of the need for and benefit of properly engaged fletcher-munson adjustments,

which are TRULY advantageous, in ANY SYSTEM. ANY SPEAKERS, ANY SPACE.