What is it I'm failing to grasp?


I come across statements here and elsewhere by guys who say 1) their systems come very close to duplicating the experience of hearing live music and 2) that they can listen for hours and hours due to the "effortless" presentation.  

I don't understand how these two claims add up. In tandem, they are profoundly inconsistent with my experiences of listening to live music. 

If I think about concerts I consider the best I've witnessed (Oregon, Solas, Richard Thompson, SRV, Dave Holland Quintet, '77 G. Dead, David Murray, Paul Winter Consort), I would not have wanted any of those performances to have extended much beyond their actual duration.

It's like eating-- no matter how wonderfully prepared the food, I can only eat so much-- a point of satiation is reached and I find this to be true (for me) when it comes to music listening as well. Ditto for sex, looking at visual art, reading poetry or playing guitar. All of these activities require energy and while they may feel "effortless" in the moment, I eventually reach a point where I must withdraw from aesthetic simulation.

Furthermore, the live music I've heard is not always "smoothly" undemanding. I love Winifred Horan's classically influenced Celtic fiddling but the tone she gets is not uniformly sweet; the melodies do not always resemble lullabies. The violin can sound quite strident at times. Oregon can be very melodious but also,(at least in their younger days) quite chaotic and atonal. These are examples on the mellower side of my listening spectrum and I can't listen to them for more than a couple hours, either live or at home. 

Bottom line: I don't find listening to live music "effortless" so I don't understand how a system that renders this activity "effortless" can also be said to be accurate.   

What is it that I'm failing to grasp, here?  


 

stuartk

I think larry5729 and I have a similar view. I can’t put up with recordings that sound horrible on my system. I listen to many choice well recorded CDs that make my system scream with pleasure! I lived in CO. and Red Rocks rules, baby!

stuartk....your listening room is the auditorium. I always went to the seat closest to 2/3rds back from stage and center. I never liked the overly loud location near speakers. I preferred to protect my ears and at 67 feel I still have good hearing. In the words of Mick "can’t always get what you want" boo-hoo for sure. I hear you man!

I agree with you about live performances but doubt I will hear it at home like in the venue. There is a place in Indy (the Murat Theater)....it will probably be my favorite venue ever. I attended the Yes concert when all of the original members joined together again. Chris Squires bass sounded like it does on a studio recording....In fact the whole concert was like a studio recording.

So I’ll offer this out for listening to everyone: George Harrison’s "All things must pass" reissue 2 CD set.(2001) Track 11 and 12. You want to feel a "live" performance in your room? This is amazing. I get goosebumps and hair rising from it. The raw emotional performance George gives is so satisfying. He is in my room playing for me. This is effortless in my opinion, also....at least in my room on my rig.

To all of you....happy audio-in’ till death do we part. "In heaven I walk through fields and reach out and the best doob lands in my hand and when I say I want to hear a band, they appear and play for me live." Amen. :) Rick