Primaluna?


I’m thinking about giving a full tube setup a go and Primaluna in particular.  Looking to hear people’s experiences with Primaluna in general. My main draw to them outside of tubes is there auto bias and protective features.  Wondering if people generally replace a single bad tube or if people are replacing all tubes of that type when there’s a failure.  Also would be interested if there were any other companies with at least a similar protective feature. The auto bias sounds great but the protective features are a bigger deal to me.  

brylandgoodman

@brylandgoodman if you’ve exhausted speaker positioning and still can’t get the bass you desire, you could try adding 2x subwoofers in the two opposite corners of the rooms, this can work magic according to people who use this setup. I had a lot of issues with low frequencies and it wasn’t the amp, rather the speaker and room interaction. My first breakthrough came when I changed the room layout so the speakers would fire down the long walls. Then I tried several speakers, like Tannoy Cheviot, Klipsch forte IV, Piega coax, ended up buying a pair of Klipsch Heresy IV. The bass was very nice with the Klipsch, and the overall music listening, but now I’m back to the Joseph Audio Pulsar 2. They just have much more detail and a 3d soundstage. Overall amazing, but at times still slightly untamed bass. So when my means allows it will add 2x svs subs :-)

Consider bass traps in corners. Photos of your system in your profile would be helpful. 
 

I am sure people with Harbeth will chime in to comment. I would think this is a frequent combination. 

Until last weekend I owned a Primaluna Dialogue HP Premium Integrated amp.   Last Thursday my Audio Dealer, www.OlsonHiFi.com, lent me a Krell K300i to test against my PL.   I really liked the PL.   I had rolled tubes, SR Orange fuse, etc.   In my system, the Krell was totally superior in almost every aspect.   I traded in my PL…

I’ve been a diehard tube guy until last weekend.   Dynaco, Audio Research, Audio Labs, Primaluna, and a few others along the way.   Now, I’m a SS believer in my specific setup.  Your setup is different.   To be fair, the PL can be had used (like mine) for about $3k whereas the Krell is 2x that.   Depending on your setup, the PL may be an excellent fit.   I do like the PL a lot.

The detail, control (particularly of the lower frequencies), and effortless presentation really won me over.

My system: Innuos Zen Mini Mk3 running Roon, through Silnote USB cable, now into the Krell K300i with the integrated DAC, through GR-Research 24pr cables, into my XStatic full range electrostatic speakers.  

Question newbie on tube amps, why are tube amps according to people who own them say the sound is more say romantic sound vs SS amp ? 

What is better to own cost wise sound advantage single ended and push pull ?

Thanks guys excuse my inexperience on the tube issue.

@aseaman007 

Great questions. Could I suggest you post this as a new thread and delete this. It is a great question. But this is already a long thread.

I’d be happy to respond. Big questions.