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+1 @mozartfan 

Agree lets get back to PM. LOok every major manufacturer from china, Cayin, Doge, LM, Willenston, Yaqin, many others offer a PP KT amp for less than PL’s offerings. You can get a KT88 amplifier just under $1400 from any of these brands which easily challenges PL’s design, which ,,let me go ck PL’s prices,,,be right back.....$2800. VERSUS Cayin (My fav of all china’s manufacturers) MT45 $1300 (Includes ship!!!!). PL is going to have a hard sell very soon. There I brought this topic back to focus,

I had the opportunity to listen to a Wilsenton R8 at a friend's house a couple of days ago. Not the last word in refinement, but boy is it impressive for $1450 (sold at Amazon). My friend is going to try better tubes to see how far he can push the SQ envelope. He replaced a Naim Supernait 3 and claims the Wilsenton is quite a bit better, especially midrange. They also have a $3000 version which is built like a tank. Once these companies establish a repair facility network in the US and countries outside China, it could spell trouble for other vendors.

@mozartfan please dont get your feelings hurt, its not about your feelings. We are all here to learn…you just seem so anxious to progress to expert level that you skip right over the lessons we all need to learn. We are all on the journey but you simply jump the gun at every opportunity, over anxious to exclaim your knowledge.

 

Regarding your price comparo above, please do be sure to account for full insurance and shipping as well as the duties and costs to import, which primaluna includes in its prices. Factor that many direct from China personally imported items dont have authentic parts and tolerance of those parts can be difficult to validate.  Also please also place a value on after the purchase service and warranty. When your yaquin amp requires service, what is it worth to you to know that in advance? Lastly factor longevity in business and resale value, which the stellar track record of service, support and warranty contributes to greatly. You think your amp is less expensive but the cost of ownership will exceed the primaluna.

better, especially midrange. They also have a $3000 version which is built like a tank. Once these companies establish a repair facility network ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ = Bigger amp does not equal superior amp, I;d sticj with the R8. AS for access to repairs,, you are on your own. However I can tell you most if not all these chinese manufacturers build w super quality, My Cayin 17, although in storage 10 yrs, plays same as it did in 2005 (Now sold, Built like a tank to last FOREVER) I just boughta Yaqin, I have zero fears of a issue. Turn on listen to music, today, tommorow and for the next 20 yrs, Just like my faith in the Cayin. Yaqin is pre fab, at least this amp, Cayin is scaffold.

p will exceed the primaluna. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Good thing going for all PL products is the fact you can ship to Kevin for any repairs.

Buy from china direct, its your baby. I don’t wish to down grade PL, they do offer incredible build, with detailed attention to every single comonent. Which all adds to build quality and sound quality. Where I think PL excels is in the wonderful range of Line Stage offerings and especially in their tube CD player and DAC. If I were in the market for a high end DAC, PL would be my 1st and only choice over Jadis. So we all need to keep the accessibility for repaairs/warrenty in mind. PL has the edge here.

Just look at PL’s DAC ( yet I have no idea why they droped this DAC in a CD player version,,, no big deal its quite easy and cheap to find a great transport)

 

STUNNING build.

WOW.

You just know its sound high fidelity

https://www.primaluna-usa.com/primaluna-evo-100-tube-dac