A Zu / Tekton / Omega Speaker Positioning Thread


Friends,

I'm a couple of months into ownership of a pair of 10-inch fullrangers, Zu Omens in this case. In extensive play with positioning, I've managed to get incredible tone out of them, the best I've ever heard -- but great soundstaging still eludes me. Specifically they fail at creating images outside of the speakers. On a recording of Bill Berry's Ellington Allstars, for example, my old 2-way monitors placed a trumpet 2.5 feet to the outside of the right speaker, and a sax just to the left, still outside the speaker. Now it's just two _great-sounding_ horns emerging directly from the right speaker.

We may be up against a reality that the limitation of 10-inch fullrangers is the inability to completely disappear, but let us have a discussion of best practices when positioning these guys.
cymbop
I have a loaner pair of Omens while waiting on my new Definitions and I assure you the speaker is capable of a psychedelic soundstage that extends in all directions outside the boundaries of the speakers and they disappear well. I have them positioned about 3.5 feet off the front wall, about 110 inches apart on center and they cross(with lasers) about a foot behind my head. Great precision (to within 1/4 inch) will definitely help create the stereophonic "illusion". Hope this helps.
That's really encouraging, Schw! Does your listening position form an equilateral triangle or are you farther/closer than that?
My listening position is a little greater than 110 inches. An equilateral triangle isn't a necessity. I would see what seating area gives you the best frequency response and go from there.
David
I'm so happy with my Tekton Lores and 4.5s. The 4.5s especially throw a very wide soundstage in my 14x16 office, I can't believe it myself at times. For example, playing Neil Young's "Down by the River" or "Cowgirls in the Sand" the soundstage is at least 5 feet outside my speakers. Young's rhythm guitarist is 5 feet outside the leff speaker edge and 5-6 feet forward, Neil is solid at center the drummer significantly behind the bassist several feet back right and coming off the right wall about 4 plus feet from speaker edge. The height is about 5 feet eight or ten inches. It is incredible and blows my mind. On his piano pieces you'd swear you were listening to Maggie's. No joke! This happens with either the Primaluna Dialogue 1 or Jolida Fx 10. Of course the Primaluna brings out a stronger bass by a tad.
Tone is right on and very musical with great coherence, detail is very good.
I've got NOS Russian 6N3C-E in place of the stock EL34s, RCA clear top side getter 12AU7s, and Sylvania NOS gold pin 3 mica black plate 12AX7s as driver. Man, I'm really happy certain A'Gon members turned me on to these speakers. My Infinity Prelude Compositions also throw this type stage but with a different sound character, all good.
Also great to hear, Mikirob. For everyone's benefit, how about we share the following distances, measured from the center of the driver:

Distance out from front wall, width between drivers, driver to sidewall, and driver to your ear. Then comment on toe-in.

Right now my drivers of my Omens are 45" out from the front wall, 96" apart, 29" from sidewalls, and 102" from my ears, toed in so that the drivers would intersect just behind my head. The center fills in pretty well, but images that should exist outside the speaker pretty much reside at the driver. Moving the speakers inward from the sidewalls still doesn't get them to project the images outside the speakers when called for.