Why Do So Many Audiophiles Reject Blind Testing Of Audio Components?


Because it was scientifically proven to be useless more than 60 years ago.

A speech scientist by the name of Irwin Pollack have conducted an experiment in the early 1950s. In a blind ABX listening test, he asked people to distinguish minimal pairs of consonants (like “r” and “l”, or “t” and “p”).

He found out that listeners had no problem telling these consonants apart when they were played back immediately one after the other. But as he increased the pause between the playbacks, the listener’s ability to distinguish between them diminished. Once the time separating the sounds exceeded 10-15 milliseconds (approximately 1/100th of a second), people had a really hard time telling obviously different sounds apart. Their answers became statistically no better than a random guess.

If you are interested in the science of these things, here’s a nice summary:

Categorical and noncategorical modes of speech perception along the voicing continuum

Since then, the experiment was repeated many times (last major update in 2000, Reliability of a dichotic consonant-vowel pairs task using an ABX procedure.)

So reliably recognizing the difference between similar sounds in an ABX environment is impossible. 15ms playback gap, and the listener’s guess becomes no better than random. This happens because humans don't have any meaningful waveform memory. We cannot exactly recall the sound itself, and rely on various mental models for comparison. It takes time and effort to develop these models, thus making us really bad at playing "spot the sonic difference right now and here" game.

Also, please note that the experimenters were using the sounds of speech. Human ears have significantly better resolution and discrimination in the speech spectrum. If a comparison method is not working well with speech, it would not work at all with music.

So the “double blind testing” crowd is worshiping an ABX protocol that was scientifically proven more than 60 years ago to be completely unsuitable for telling similar sounds apart. And they insist all the other methods are “unscientific.”

The irony seems to be lost on them.

Why do so many audiophiles reject blind testing of audio components? - Quora
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Irwin Pollack, Professor Emeritus of Psychology and Research Scientist Emeritus in the Mental Health Research Institute at the University of Michigan, passed away January 23, 2021 at the age of ninety-five.  

Professor Pollack received his B.S. degree in 1945 from the University of Florida and his M.S. and Ph.D. degrees in 1946 and 1949, respectively, from Harvard University. Following his doctoral work, Professor Pollack was a research psychologist at the U.S. Navy Electronics Laboratory. He then served as director and senior research psychologist at the Air Force Operational Applications Laboratory prior to coming to the University of Michigan. In 1963, he received a joint appointment at Michigan as professor of psychology and research scientist in the Mental Health Research Institute. He retired as Emeritus Professor of Psychology in 1995. Professor Pollack was an active member of the Department of Psychology throughout his retirement years, attending research talks, faculty meetings, and department social events. He was generous in his praise and support for our faculty and students, and a valued colleague and friend.

Professor Pollack is internationally known for his novel approaches to the study of the auditory system. Over the span of his career, he was interested in the nervous system interpretation of auditory information. He recently focused on an experimental approach that distinguished between two general modes of processing sensory information: "within-signal" and ''between signal" sound comparison, which are necessary for auditory discrimination tasks. The long-term goal of his research was to improve our understanding of the human binaural system. Such understanding provided a foundation for new prostheses and signal processing procedures to aid localization of hard-of-hearing patients. Professor Pollack a Fellow of the Acoustical Society of America and of the American Psychological Association.


Projection is the process of displacing one’s feelings onto a different person, animal, or object. The term is most commonly used to describe defensive projection—attributing one’s own unacceptable urges to another. For example, if someone continuously bullies and ridicules a peer about his insecurities, the bully might be projecting his own struggle with self-esteem onto the other person.

The concept emerged from Sigmund Freud’s work on defense mechanisms and was further refined by his daughter, Anna Freud, and other prominent figures in psychology.

Unconscious discomfort can lead people to attribute unacceptable feelings or impulses to someone else to avoid confronting them. Projection allows the difficult trait to be addressed without the individual fully recognizing it in themselves.


Easy read:  "The Ego and Mechanisms of Defense,"  Anna Freud.

"...people had a really hard time telling obviously different sounds apart."

If they were "obviously different", people would not have had a really hard time telling them apart.
darkstar,

"How can this help me buy a car?"

You have come to the right place. Just check all the Porsche threads on Audiogon.
artemus_5,

The study you linked to, and seem to have based some of your assertions on, might be flawed by design. At least to half of the Audiogon crowd...

"All of the stimuli were digitized and their waveforms were stored on the Pulse Code Modulation System..."

Are we going to accept digital as a reliable method? Here?

Additionally, subjects in the testing...

"All were right-handed native speakers of English..."

How would the results be for some other native speakers? It would have been more interesting had they included multiple groups of subjects. Maybe, they would have found that native Korean speakers are much better at figuring differences than English ones. Even then, digital? As a proof on Audiogon?

Categorical and noncategorical modes of speech perception along the voicing continuum (nih.gov)