I Have Airborne Feedback And Never Realized It...Till Now


  While my ZYX Airy is out for a rebuild, I hooked up my CAL cd player/transport and started playing CD`s that I had recorded from vinyl using a Tascam 900.
When I do the recording, nothing is on but the TT setup and the recorder. Room is dead silent. No speakers

I`ve  been listening to a disc or two over the last few nights.

Last night, I was listening to a CD I made of Lindsey Stirling`s 'Shatter Me' LP
I was hearing so many odd/different sounds that I never picked up on before using the TT.

For example, I heard growling sounds (seriously) back ground noises and other THINGS that all were hidden when I was playing the TT.
This LP is Bass Heavy! Lots of energy in the air. With 3 15" subs I know that.

My TT is pretty much isolated IMO
I use a Rega wall mount bracket that is bolted to my equipment rack not the wall.
I have the TT sitting on a SRM isolation platform that sits on the Rega bracket
Concrete slab floor.

No doubt the cartridge is picking up on all energy that and resubmitting it.

This won`t be an easy fix I`m afraid..  :(



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My two öre.
There is calculations regarding tone arm mass, cartridge weight, compliance and so on.
That is for calculating the match between the cartridge and tonearm.
The calculation gives you a low Hz number as output. That is the resonance frequency that the whole assembly.
You want that frequency be out of the hearing range. If you are unlucky maybe you have not as optimal match there.

Second thing is that you can also stand and jump in front of your TT if you turn of the subs. What I trying to say it is not much worth if someone is telling that they can jump beside their TT IF they do not have subwoofers that that play easily down to 10Hz and doing that with some extra dB (not a -3db reading)

With your 3 15" subs you can get into that situation.

So first thing is to check your cartridge and tonearm. If that is a issue try to fix that so you get a frequency in the proper range. (We can’t work against physics).

Then there is unfortunately something called rumble filter that is a hi-pass at somewhere 15 - 20hz (depending on the above).

I implemented that in my miniDSP with a 24 oct/dB slope. (The miniDSP is in my opinion to noisy but therefore it is only used to my two 18" subwoofers there it performs 6 different duties. And this is one of them.)

Yes rumble is a nasty feedback loop noise. So you need to have speakers that play low down with adequate of db to yours tonearm assembly resonance frequency if you do that and a tell is when you play a track put your fingers on the sub surround and you can notice it pumping in and out that is not in the music that is your feedback loop. (It is so low frequency that you don’t hear it and those frequencies is the one you cut out and stop the loop with the rumble filter..)
It is folly to spend a lot of money on any platform (many of them do not work) for such an inexpensive turntable. Buy a Sota Sapphire instead and all your problems will disappear. 
I do not think that any platform/turntable can make physics laws to disappear.

If as I guess most of us do not play TT and also have 3x15" subwoofers and are able to play far below 20 Hz..
That is little of a precondition here.. what I am talking about..

The goal in matching a specific cartridge and arm is to achieve a resonance in the 10 to 14Hz range. Some feel that limiting this range even further, to 9 to 11Hz, is beneficial in reducing the effects of resonance.

The following formula for calculating the resonant frequency of an arm/cartridge:

Resonant Frequency = 159/((M + CW + FW) * C).

http://www.mh-audio.nl/Calculators/RF.html
I`m going to try and isolate the TT somehow, using acoustic foam of some sort.
Not going to ditch the table for another one that`s for sure, sorry.

As always, you guy`s come through with pretty good even great advice. 
  
Audio-Technica designed pneumatic insulators (AT-616) long time ago and this is still the best solution for turntables under 60kg weight.