Just added full LP playback


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I've just added a new LP playback to my system.   It sounds very nice, but...........

re: Pro-ject Classic, Hana SL , Musical Surroundings Phonomona II+
My digital is Chord Qutest with Roon as comparison 

so,  I’m finding the playback being somewhat sibilant and bass shy , as compared to digital 
yes, I’m only about 25-30 hrs of break-in and working on adding albums to add 

what would be the suggested steps for remediation of the SQ 

Jeff
frozentundra
@lalitk 

sweet looking setup 
my compliments 

is the Thorens a suspended table ?

I was told a suspended table would not have the bass of a heavy damped turntable ? 

I noticed the ML has a brass plate ? Is that so its For heavier tonearms ?       
 How did you start with the ML ? 
Jeff
Jeff@frozentundra,

Thanks for the compliments. Thorens TD1601 sub-chassis is mounted on three conical springs thus allowing its platter to float vertically. I don’t think I’ve experienced any loss in the bass region with this table.

RE: Sibilant. @audioguy85 advise is spot on. I did experience lot of sibilance when I first set my table out of the box. I played with counterweight adjustment and got rid of the sibilance. Fortunately, the VTA adjustment and cart was done by the seller (MusicDirect). As much I am enjoying this turntable, it’s not without its flaws. I picked the electrical lift and auto-shut off option with TD1601 and it is probably the most noisy part of the operation, otherwise the table is dead quiet.

I have another table (Dr. Feickert - Volare) coming in couple of weeks. Let’s see which one I end up keeping :-)

The choice of Hana cart was based on one of my dear friend recommendation. I did read the online reviews which are very positive about the brand. Initially I was leaning towards Hana SL but after speaking to my consultant at Music Direct, he highly recommended the ML (Low Output) over SL. The Hana ML uses higher-specifications parts, extra-pure copper wiring and a nude microline stylus. The brass plate along with Delrin body provides better dampening over SL.
I mostly listen to jazz genre so I prefer a relax and slightly warm sound. With Hana ML music simply flows, the soundstage is so relaxed and expansive that all of the detail in my favorite recordings are easily heard and silky smooth. With this cart, you can easily discern the differences between vinyl at 33 and 45rpm speed. Absolutely no regrets with ML.

If I may, I would like to recommend couple of accessories if you plan to continue exploring vinyl playback.

1) Clean your records with cleaning solution (even the new one’s) and they will sound so much better with minimal ticks and pops. I bought new records and they were noisy even after cleaning with Carbon Fiber Anti-Static Record Brush. I bought this kit from Amazon, everything you need it’s included,

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H5C8ZL2/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3425Q6HRMGD2C&psc=1

2) Pick up Mo-Fi Record Inner Sleeves. These sleeves make it so easy to slide your record in and out and keep them static-free. Those cheap paper sleeves are royal pain in the rear 😆

https://www.musicdirect.com/sleeves/mobile-fidelity-record-inner-sleeves-50pk

Enjoy the journey!
@audioguy85 

“ the Hana prefers to be run ass down “

can you explain this a bit more ?
if sibilance( slight) and looking for more bass,  how does this relate 

still trying stuff and they do make differences 

@lalitk 
no mention of cabling ?  I’m using low capacitance project cable to phono pre and cheap radio shack rca’s 

most of my cabling is Kimber kable hero & monocle 

Lp analog appears to be tweekers delight!

Jeff


@frozentundra,

Jeff,

All of my cabling is by Audio Envy. I am using their Prestige RCA interconnects between my TT, phono and Integrated. The cable has incredible low mass, capacitance of 4.2pF per foot. And a generic zip cord for grounding. I did order my phono cable from AE and expecting it early next week.

https://audioenvy.com/product/home-car-pro-interconnects/phono-deluxe-matched-pair/

Kimber Kables are pretty good too :-)
Jeff, MC cartridges do not care about capacitance. That is a MM problem. But, it is always a good idea to use high quality cable with good connections. For turntables it is always best to keep the cable as short as possible. Kimber Kable makes excellent products. I use their speaker wire exclusively (but , what a royal PITA to terminate). 
I would set your tonearm so that the head shell mounting surface is perfectly parallel to the record surface. I use 180 gm records for this. With a well manufactured cartridge at the recommended VTF this should put the stylus rack angle at 92 degrees. As with tonearm resonance if you really want to know for sure what is going on you need the right tool to measure it. In this case a relatively inexpensive USB microscope and a plexiglass protractor will do the trick. 
Properly suspended and isolated turntables outperform fixed turntables in every way including bass. You can make any fixed turntable better just by placing it on a good isolation base. Good ones are very expensive so IMHO it is always best to start off with a good suspended table.  
Don't forget those screws!