Budding Audiophile Seeks Speaker Guidance


Hello and thank you for taking the time to read this thread. I am new to the world of quality home theater audio and am currently trying to decide on a speaker brand. I have demoed several brands so far and, thankfully, have been able to rule a few out. I have spent many weeks learning what I can on my own, but am now at the point where I need the advice of more experienced audiophiles to guide me.

I have a 12x12 living room with a 54" Panasonic VT25. The system will be used for somewhere around 70% movies and 30% music. Movies are my primary concern, but I would like for it to sound good on music as well. After all, the music in film soundtracks is an essential element of the viewing experience. The system will start as a 5.1, due to limited space at this time, but will eventually become a 7.1 when we move in a few months. I will have a separate, powered sub, and have not determined which brand it will be yet, although I'm looking at the $500 price range for it. Additionally, again, due to space limitations, I will need to go with bookshelf speakers for the fronts. As for the two rear channels, my couch is up against the wall in the back of the room and really cannot be moved, so I'm unsure of the speaker type and placement that I should go with. Everything will be powered by the Onkyo 3008.

From Magnolia's offerings, I was able to narrow things down to B&W and MartinLogan. As for the B&W, I listened to the 685B fronts with an HTM61B center channel. For the MartinLogans, I listened to the Motion 4s in front with a Motion 8 center channel. My findings may give you an idea of my personal preference and help you steer me in the right direction. I found the B&W to give a pretty good sound, with dialogue quality being its high point for me. The dialogue was clear, though just a little unnatural-sounding. As for the MartinLogans, the dialogue was good, but not as clear as the B&W. Dialogue clarity is very important to me because, due to a minor hearing problem, I sometimes have trouble understanding the occasional word or words when there is an ambient sound of some sort playing at the same time.

The MartinLogans actually offered something important to me as well, which was emphasized during a particular sound effect. The demo being used was Tron: Legacy, and there is a part in the first bike scene when one bike jumps over the other in slow motion. With the B&Ws, I heard the sound of the bike, and it was fine. With the MartinLogans, however, I could not only hear the sound as part of the film, I could "feel" it, as if the bike actually was nearby. It was a very natural sound for a bike, though, and not overdone at all.

What I really need is the best of both worlds here--a system that will give me very natural and clear dialogue, as well as giving me a balanced and as-intended punch on sound effects that call for it. I would like to stress that, just as I'm not interested in anything underdone or overly-restrained, I also don't want anything overdone or unnatural. Budget-wise, I'm looking to stay in the range of the aforementioned speakers, so basically around $1500 total for the fronts, center, and two surrounds. I could probably manage just a bit more if necessary.

The other brands that are available for me to demo within a "fairly reasonable" driving distance are NHT, Paradigm, KEF, Boston Acoustics, PSB, and Monitor Audio. Would any of these brands be good choices for my personal preferences and requirements? Would any of them absolutely not be? Any that I could exclude would be helpful since I live in the middle of nowhere and am looking at a 300-mile trip to several cities just to demo these few brands.

Thank you so much for any help and advice you can give. I'm holding off on watching many of my favorite films until I get the system installed and I'm so excited to be closing in on the final steps!!
kryptonian
Hello Kryptonian Like Smallville by the way? Great choice In tvs. If I were you I would try the 2k logans or last years source . You do not need speakers all over the room in a small area. I have a 133 inch sceen in a 17 x 29 room with 2 channel martin logan prodigys. Surround sound Is overated. Good luck in your search.
+1 on 2 channel audio. Get the center if it is a great package deal. I had 5.1, 6.1 and 7.1. I am now back to fantastic, honest and well defined 2 channel. If you are moving you may want to just settle on the front of your system. Buy the best speakers you can afford that make you want to listen! Good Luck!
Hello Kryptonian,

For what it's worth, a 12X12 room no doubt is going to have acoustic issues that will intefere with the potential of almost any speakers you choose. For example, standing waves in the corners need controlling as do first reflections. Both will distort and muddy the sound. I suggest you educate yourself about what these issues are and how to resolve them. Jim Smith's popular book, "Get Better Sound" is a good place to start. Among many other topics of interest to all audiophiles, he stresses the importance of "playing the room", that is you have to "work with the room" not against it by identifying and treating acoustic problems first. I don't think you will find any serious audiophile who will disagree with the importance of room acoustics. It can account for 50% or more of the sound you're actually going to hear because of the way sound waves bounce and reflect off of ceiling, floor, walls and objects in the room. It simply doesn't make sense to invest your money in quality speakers when you will not be able to hear what they really can sound like in a room that has untreated acoustic problems. Hope this helps.