100v,115v versus 230v


Some audio technicians/ enthusiasts claiming that, high end audio equipment performs much better european 220/230v even 240 UK  voltage if that's the case why USA 110V / 120 volt AC ?
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I note that in addition to the voltage also the frequency changes,
230-240 V 50 Hz and 110-120 V 60 Hz.
In my humble opinion, the effect of the different frequency must also be considered,
or at least postulated that this difference is considered negligible.
In a rigorous scientific study it should be proven, not in this case

A transformer designed to work optimally at 50Hz also works at 60 and vice versa, of course, but since these are non-macroscopic listening differences,
a 20% frequency difference may not be so negligible.
Thanks in advance to whoever answers me .

it has been a great discussion, I  would love to hear from designers manufacturers if there is noticeable difference better performance running 120V Audio equipment on 230 volt naturally requires step up/down as ditusa has mentioned in his post he is running his gear at 230 volt  , I run my amps on 230Vac.They sound better. (Improved speed and better transient response.) ditusa

glupson6,016 posts

08-10-2020
11:15am

jea48,

"Unless a piece of equipment, like a monster power amp, consumes more than 1440 volt-amperes continuous power it’s a violation of US electrical safety code to install a 240V branch circuit and receptacle in a US residential dwelling."

How does it go in real life? In the U.S.A., I have usual 110V outlets, but I do have a few 220V (240?), too. Granted, they are used for washer, air conditioning, etc., but I have a few unused ones, too. I have nothing to plug into them (except the tuntable that would then be too far so no need anyway), but I did not fully understand your post about "legality" of them even being there.

@ glupson

but I have a few unused ones, too. I have nothing to plug into them (except the tuntable that would then be too far so no need anyway),
Just a guess the "unused ones" were installed at the time for "220V" window air conditioners.

How does it go in real life? In the U.S.A., I have usual 110V outlets, but I do have a few 220V (240?), too.
There is a good chance if you measured the voltage at your 110V outlets it is closer to 120V than 110V. What ever it measures the hot Line 1 to hot Line 2 voltage at the electrical panel will/should measure twice that.
Example: Hot Line to neutral, 110V. Hot Line 1 to hot Line 2 will measure 220V.


Audio equipment that has dual voltage primary windings power transformer will still output the same secondary winding(s) voltage and exactly the same volt-ampere rating(s). The only thing that could influence the performance of say a power amp would be Voltage drop on the mains if a 120V branch circuit is used verses a 240V branch circuit.

Possibly another reason, for here in the US, if 240V mains power is used it basically could be considered balanced power, 120V - 0V - 120V.



As for this:
stefano_f1 posts

08-11-2020
10:50am


I note that in addition to the voltage also the frequency changes,
230-240 V 50 Hz and 110-120 V 60 Hz.
In my humble opinion, the effect of the different frequency must also be considered,
or at least postulated that this difference is considered negligible.
In a rigorous scientific study it should be proven, not in this case

A transformer designed to work optimally at 50Hz also works at 60 and vice versa, of course, but since these are non-macroscopic listening differences,
a 20% frequency difference may not be so negligible.
Thanks in advance to whoever answers me .


@ stefano_f


The frequency has nothing to do with whether the voltage is 230-240V or 110-120V. The frequency is determined by the Utility Power Company’s generating plant.
https://www.worldstandards.eu/electricity/plug-voltage-by-country/

Jim.
@ SABIH I do not use a ( step up /down transformer. ) My amps are voltage sensing. What ever voltage they see that is what they run on....Min/100V.Max/250V....