70’s rock pressings. Witch equipment deserve?


I have 3.000 LP, most of it 70’s prog rock. Some of them are “audiophile” pressings (Classic Records... etc). But just a few.

Is it worth it a expensive capsule/phonopreamp for that kind of recordings? 

I know that classical music, or jazz masterings were masterworks in their times, and deserves the best capsule/preamp you can buy.

But I dont’t know if Genesis, PF, King Crimson, Magma... 70’s pressings would get much better with a super capsule or it’s better to invest in other parts of the chain to achieve the best sound.

Thanks! Be safe!
ramon74
@ramon74

Technics are great turntables. Their tonearms are not nearly as good as the turntable is! The same goes for their platter pads.
1.- buy yourself a nice vintage MM cartridge from the same era with Line Contact type stylus (avoid spherical/conical or elliptical). 
I would regard this statement as entirely false! The cutting stylus used on any stereo LP is the same today as it was in 1958. Newer stylus used in brand-new cartridges work just fine if they are set up right. Vintage cartridges OTOH are risky and lower performance (cartridges have made improvements in the last 50 years...); but in particular they will need a new stylus to work properly!

Every time you up grade you hope at least your system  will sound better. BACK in the 70s I used a Technics SL1350 with a Shure V-15 cart. Now I have a Nad c588 with a orton blue.i still have vinyl to play and I love prog.It sounded great then and still does.
1.- buy yourself a nice vintage MM cartridge from the same era with Line Contact type stylus (avoid spherical/conical or elliptical).

I would regard this statement as entirely false! The cutting stylus used on any stereo LP is the same today as it was in 1958. Newer stylus used in brand-new cartridges work just fine if they are set up right. Vintage cartridges OTOH are risky and lower performance (cartridges have made improvements in the last 50 years...); but in particular they will need a new stylus to work properly!

I did not said anything bad about new stylus made today, i just said that it must be advanced profile to improve the sound of vintage stereo records previously worn by conical/elliptical profiles in the 70’s if the previous owner of those records was not audiophile. The advanced stylus profile is important not only for MM (with user replaceable stylus) but more important for MC because the life-span is much longer with advanced stylus profile (up to 2000hrs compared to 300-500 hrs for conical/elliptical tip).

Cartridges have made improvements in the last 50 years, but NOT in the last 30 years and definitely not an MM. Marketing definitely improved to sell average sounding cartridges for $5k or even for $20k per unit. Asking $10k for an MI cartridge today is quite normal in this crazy high-end world.

If it’s risky to buy reasonably priced vintage MM in mint condition then please tell us why not only me but many more people on audiogon are so happy about their rare finds and about the sound (even if they have those modern high-end cartridges) ? Believe it or not but NOS stylus for the cartridges from the 70s and 80s are still available. Not everyone should use retippers or to buy jico or some other inferior styli for vintage cartridges to keep them alive.

Finally, you should tell us what is your favorite new MM cartridges and how many of those greatest vintage MM did you try and actually compared to the modern MM ? Also it would be nice to know which modern MM you could compare to some of your new LOMC @atmasphere



It depends.  You're asking audiophiles if you should buy audio equipment to enjoy your music.  Of course they are going to tell you to buy the best, most expensive gear you want to spend your money on.  The better the gear, the more revealing of poor recordings, vinyl damage, and just plain bad performances.

I have a friend that LOVES music.  He's also a musician, and he loves listening to the creative aspects of music - different beats, chord progressions, etc.  He also collects records and CDs and has probably made a very, very good return on his money (if he were to sell his collection).  What does he listen to his music on?  Mostly his laptop with cheap earbuds.  He enjoys the music every bit as most of us do, probably more.