Eminent Technology ET-2 Tonearm Owners



Where are you? What mods have you done ?

I have been using these ET2's for over 9 years now.
I am still figuring them out and learning from them. They can be modified in so many ways. Bruce Thigpen laid down the GENIUS behind this tonearm over 20 years ago. Some of you have owned them for over 20 years !

Tell us your secrets.

New owners – what questions do you have ?

We may even be able to coax Bruce to post here. :^)

There are so many modifications that can be done.

Dressing of the wire with this arm is critical to get optimum sonics along with proper counterweight setup.

Let me start it off.

Please tell us what you have found to be the best wire for the ET-2 tonearm ? One that is pliable/doesn’t crink or curl. Whats the best way of dressing it so it doesn’t impact the arm. Through the spindle - Over the manifold - Below manifold ? What have you come up with ?
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Ah Chris, it is an RM-9 you have, not a 10. I guess I forgot ;-). I had a talk with Roger about which to use with the ESL, a conversation I can share at another point in time. Onto the Decca/London!:

My first Decca was a Blue, and I, like Colloms and Fremer, couldn’t live with it. I got myself a moving coil (A Supex, with a Levinson JC-1 head amp), and forgot all about Decca’s. I got out of hi-fi (traveling too much, never living in one place long), but was drawn back in the mid-80’s.

I discovered the writings of Harvey Rosenberg, who was just starting New York Audio Labs. He, along with Ken Kessler of Hi-Fi News & Record Review, were the world’s leading Decca fanatics and experts. I wrote Harvey a letter, and he looked up my number and gave me a call! He gave me quite a Master’s Class in Decca usage: the cartridge can not just be dropped into a system in place of a "normal" cartridge.

THAT’S why I have been using the Townshend Rock table ever since. The Decca’s (and to a lesser extent the London’s) demand not just mechanical damping (provided by the Townshend trough), but electronic as well. Harvey lead me through how to create a tank circuit to combat the electrical resonance inherent in Decca’s, which surprisingly affect tracking.

Did you see the review of a lower-priced London by Art Dudley in his Stereophile column a few years back? Worth reading. Ken Kessler has not lost his love of Decca/London’s (I’ve discussed them with him at CES, where I unsuccessfully attempted to get him to sell me one of his Garrott Decca’s) has been covering them for years; his reviews are of much more value than those of Colloms and Fremer.

And lastly, the London’s are not nearly as fickle as were the Decca’s. And the Reference---at $5295, not a "Decca" to dabble with ;-)---is VERY different. Just as the QUAD ESL is not for everyone, or all systems, or even all music, so too with the Decca/London. But for my priorities, there is no alternative. My first loves are songwriting, singing--both melody and harmony, and acoustic instruments. At that, both the Decca/London and QUAD ESL are unbeatable.

In addition, tomic601 is quite right: NOTHING reproduces drums as do Decca/Londons. The transient attack, the head-snapping dynamics, the explosiveness, the startling aliveness, the "immediacy"; the cartridge is the equivalent of a direct-to-disk LP, like hearing The Who with Keith Moon up close, which I did twice!

bdp24 - Harvey lead me through how to create a tank circuit to combat the electrical resonance inherent in Decca’s, which surprisingly affect tracking.

Eric, Can you please provide more detail on how you created this tank circuit?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LC_circuit

I am sure other Decca cart owners (potential and existing) on this thread would appreciate the info as well.  

I am of the belief that good phono preamps have the electronic circuit design qualities, to deal with electronic resonance. But I never owned a London or Decca. In my "Panic Room" , my preamp that I use has a hot rod mode - One flip of the switch bypasses all circuits except what is needed to create the simple signal. I run MC's at 47k, the noise floor is very low, and I use unshielded single shot wiring direct to the preamp.

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Ah Chris, it is an RM-9 you have, not a 10. I guess I forgot


I own both Eric. See my virtual system - click on the avatar.

A few years ago my RM9 was totally rebuilt by a local person and was well - let's say it was turbocharged. It was built up a little.
RM9's can be used with the Quads as long as one has self control. Obviously an over kill situation. But it provided me at the time with a glimpse of the "tone" I wanted with the Quads, and that led me eventually to the RM10 years ago as well.

My Achilles Heel is speakers. Like Boats have not met one I didn't like and could not make work. I don't mess around with amplifiers. and I don't get emotional about them. They are Slaves for the speakers. They better work. I don't tolerate downtime, and IMO amps are the most likely component to fail in the chain. My RM9 bettered 200 wpc OTL monoblocks in a shootout some years ago. As you know RM9's became too expensive (for whatever reason) for Roger to continue to make. I believe they were a special order item only. How the RM9 compares with Dan's Krell 600 that is own is very interesting.

@bdp24 

Eric not sure if you saw the question above. 
Can you please provide more detail on how you created this tank circuit?
I have had a couple emails asking about this circuit. If you have any information on this, pls post. Thanks Chris   

Hope this post finds everyone well.

Stay Safe, Social Distance, Stay Well .  
Best wishes - & hopefully less long states of mental hibernation or coronation...
I wanted to bring to your attention this jewel of a technical discussion from Pierre Lurné:
https://www.tnt-audio.com/sorgenti/lurne_air_bearing_e.html
now, well... :-)
- even a french emperor walking the naked truth may be clothed by invisible (very, very) small pieces of textiles covering some sensible parts of the body (impeding some directions of clear vision).
Even if he's called Prince Pierre Lurné who built one or two of the most beautifullly and perfectely crafted one point tonearms. (Which sound excellent too.)
- split horizontal and vertical resonances are rather an advantage than a drawback. (I've not seen or read ever convincing proof of the opposite, and Moerch is following this path with his top arm).
- therefore some of the cartridges with remarkably good bass do feature distinctively different compliances in both planes leading to the same split resonances with conventional tonearms. (eg. Decca, all true mono cartridges like Myajima).
- Listening, measuring and comparing the vibrations on the headshell of the ET2 vs. the vibrations on the outer bearing housing with a measuring coupler showed a remarkably similar frequency response at least up into the upper midrange.
Ie. the air bearing seems to be pretty stiff & well coupling to audible frequencies. The ultrasonic spectrum hitting conventional roller bearings, seems to me rather a multitude of metal to metal resonances of scattered and reflected energy back into the arm modulated by slightly elastic and moving point contacts. Ie. a process prone to  a certain alu-foil on comb quality, a form of distortion.
So I think the air bearing grounds vibrations rather well - and without introducing variable noises (except those inherent to the air film itself, which are like a very low level stable white noise).
Hi all,

I thought I would post and say hello.

Sota Saphire (non vacuum); original owner when I purchased in 1985.
ET2 with the carbon fiber wand
Shelter 901 mark 3.

I put my pump and air tank (2 liter bottle) in the garage wall.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/WbKvb5MEAq9hGfAq8


After using the Sota for 35 years, I turned in my Sota to Donna and had her team completely restore/upgrade (Dec 2020) my Sota (mag lev bearing, Eclipse controller / motor, chassis, platter upgrades). I noticed a material difference in the noise floor drop immediately.

Picture of our music room:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Cr4AW1VgXBQatBE38

I have never had an operational problem with the ET2; it was setup very well when Sota/ET2 were the hot ticket back in the mid 80’s.

-stu