Help me with a speaker cable build, Ideas?


Hey, This is the OldHvyMec,

I've been watching the forums and noticed all the clammer on speaker cables.

Got any ideas on how to build a better NETWORK SPEAKER CABLE?

THIS IS NOT about, what a cable should do, BUT, about what a cable CAN DO.
I've found some interesting ideas and would like to share.

Design??? I need All the help I can get!!!!

I invite all the poor sound hounds to the BBQ. What YA GOT???

Materials, Surplus, Ideas.  Just no Yoko Ono, and be nice, I'm old. LOL

Regards
oldhvymec
Get some Mogami 2477 Blue Neglex 14 guage OFC coax. Strip the ends and add your favorite bananas/spades and you will have a speaker cable as good as those costing big bucks! I had a pair connected to my KLH Nine ESL's for 20 years! Cost: $1 a foot (40 ft piece cut in half).

A lot of the cabling we used was silver clad, open ends, tinned with silver solder. 20-75 foot runs, sometimes. It was all reinstalled back in Enviro Armor. Can't have sparks down the hole, could wind up on the moon, if you hit a flammable or combustible pocket.

A lot of the really GOOD cable is made to German and Japanese DIN standards, VERY HIGH QUALITY cable in the industrial and Aerospace industries. CLOSE QC. no doubt.

I've used a lot of commercial wire, LOTS. I've never had speaker cable problems. EVER..

This is really a fishing expedition on NETWORK speaker cable builds.
I think I have 500.00 USD in all the cables in all the systems I use, XLRs, speaker, PC, wall sockets, conduit EVERYTHING. Some speaker builds I've used pure silver solid core #20-24, mids and depends copper sometimes in the tweet position. BUT NO CLADDING, too many problems.

Regards
Audio sensibility, Take 5 audio, parts connexion, Audiyo, VH labs, and many others, for high grade audio oriented cables, in bulk (by the foot).

This tends to be better money spent, when it comes to trying out making your own cables.

It is not unusual to try it yourself first, and to do it using anything but ’high end audio’ specific bulk cable.

But, in the end, the audio specific bulk cable designs, do turn out to be the best money spent in DIY speaker cables. And interconnects. Have fun along the way....

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Actually, in my experience, there is one other. One cable design to rule all the DIY cables. Copper foil from the stained glass industry, with stabilized physical geometry and insulation supplied by simple high grade paper based masking tape. It is the most DIY of all, but it has the highest value return.

The big trick, is, if one finds the copper foil cable as being deficient in some parameter.. it is generally not the fault of the copper foil - the fault lies elsewhere in the system. This can take some time to figure out.

It is like walking up a set of high end audio steps. The foil gets you one step up in the right direction, and then another leg has to move to a new spot. The foil is already correctly positioned to provide lift upward, via other or connected effort. The foil is not a misstep. In many systems, it may not be likened to a misstep or 'the weakest link' for quite some time, in the realm of sequentially attempting those upward steps.
teo_audio

Very interesting COPPER FOIL. I've seen craftsmen work with gold and silver clad (type foil) in the inlay process of fine jewelry, ornamental armor, wood. You name it. I've done a few pieces through the years.

The cable you mention is out there? I just need to hunt it down? OR I need to make it so it's not deficient in some of the sonic pearls, it can offer up.

The tape you speak of, could you elaborate. Some type of paper?
I never thought of it. But the material could vary from customary  wood product, to HIGH quality rice, silk, cotton, and hemp. ULTRA thin super strong designs. 

Paper in general, is slightly on the acidic side, rice, hemp, silk, cotton, and I'm sure quit a few more, are closer to neutral.

I know that different jackets and the material between jacket and conductor can REALLY vary. The different  materials surely have different sonic signatures right? 

Thanks for the input..
Go to Tempo Electric site. They sell cable, insulation, etc. I bought two pair of Big Twist 12 gauge solid core silver in Teflon tubing, and love them. They sound great.

Retired old heavy equipment operator,
Dan
stained glass, copper foil.

https://www.ebay.ca/b/Stained-Glass-Supplies/4770/bn_16516878


Various thickness, widths, and backing materials.

All copper these days is inherently 99.99% OFC copper. As the cheapest way of making it is via a electrolytic process that automatically comes to that level and type of quality. They would make it cheaper if they could but that is now the bottom of the barrel in copper quality, strictly due to costs.

Basically, you lay out a long strip of high quality masking tape, on a linoleum kitchen floor or whatnot,..done glue side up...and then lay down a long strip of the given copper of the right ’total guage/area...’, of equivalence to 18-14g or whatnot..and then a strip beside it, separated...and then lay another strip of the tape down on that, using the glue side down, so the two glue sides contact and entrap the copper strips.

Thus you get a high grade high current high bandwidth foil speaker pair set, for about $40 total. With paper dielectric, no less, which is a very high quality dielectric. the glue sucks, but you can’t have everything. Maybe even multiple strips of copper per positive and negative leg. The good part of the glued together set is that it is low mass with high damping. The ideal desirable combination. With an almost MIA dielectric skin. Which is also desirable.

You can even make unshielded interconnects of the thinner copper foil, via similar techniques. And you can probably run video signals down the speaker cable version they are so high bandwidth. Or alternatively run a toaster at 1400 watts.