oppo bdp 83 vs pioneer elite dv 58av for listening

The BPD-83 has improved the RBCD sound as well compared to for example the 971 or 981.

I've tested the BDP-83 against Denon BD3800 and I actually perfer the BDP-83 for decoding the lossless over 7.1. I also tested the newer Denon A1BDci, and yes it's a little better, but with a price difference of 7-9 Oppo's for one Denon, it's an easy choice...

I'm not too certain that you will hear much of a difference at all with the Pioneer and possible it could be on a lesser level... Do you have any possibility to borrow a DV58 from a dealer and at the same time buy the Oppo? They do have a very good return policy, so this way to can actually test it out at home.

actually yesterday i just decided and bought a modded dv58av so my problem. I guess a month from now i have to decide whether to buy the oppo bdp83 or pioneer elite 09fd ..i heard the elite sounds better!

Keep you dv58 av for Redbook playback.

I prefer my BDP51fd to the DV58av for 2 channel analog playback though. Yes, it's still slow after FW upgrading but within a reasonable loading time.

I am looking to acquire the BDP 09 once the price goes south by the end of the year or next year.

If my budget was $1500 I would buy the Oppo 83 and spend the rest on a very good power cord. I think the Lessloss DFPC would go very well with this player. Spend the rest on good ic's or hdmi. You could also have the player modified/upgraded and may have yourself a world class player. A $1000 modification could go a long ways with the Oppo but of course this is not everyones cup of tea. I am going the upgrade route with the Oppo.