Allright......I checked it out today. Phil and I both suspected that the speakers are not fully broken in yet. It's been only 2 days that the speakers are playing and no way they are 100% yet. But, the good part is, I was very impressed with the performance of these speakers especially considering the price. Very nice imaging and staging. We ran them with Empirical modded Sony S7700 to Dodson 218 into Blue Circle new integrated(don't remember the model but I think it's their new hybrid). Very good sound. Deep bass, detailed overall, but definately needing some more playing time. I'll be back there in a week or so to check these speakers out again after further break in, but initial impressions are very good. Phil says he will experiment with placement a little more to determine optimal position, but they way they played today, pretty impressive for $3700
