Thiel 2.3 vs 2.4 the real difference

Depending on when the review was done will determine the response, heck if your CS2.3's are new then some changes could have happened after I stopped selling Thiels to inch it closer to where the CS2.4 is.

But one constant was a -4/-5 dB dip at or around 1200hz-1500hz and a rise of +4-+5 db through the 4K range which is a near +10 swing. in a narrow range of frequencies.

Last time I measured the CS2.3 was 2000, so that left 2 more years for changes.

Plus you are discounting the negative reaction of many, many clients. They listen they tell me what they think. What about them? That has a great deal to do with my stance, they weren't always so diplomatic as reviewers.

Tim, I'm not upset, and I realize I'm out of step with common lore on the speaker. Item: 1117244877 Take a look at a speaker I built and how it measures. I'm just an amateur, weird guy out of step with the world. But just so there's no misunderstanding what my expectations are.

Jazzdude
Yes sir, it's me. I will always be greatfull for your advices. Thanks to you I got SIM W5 and absoloutly love it. I will check out the TACT RCS.
I would like to hear from people who switched from 2.3 to 2.4. I listened to 2.4 in dealers room and it sounded different then my 2.3. But the whole equipment was different so I cannot say how they actually differ. If I got a chance to have them in-house I will tell here what I found.

Cinematic systems, what piece of equipment did you use to measure the speaker's response? What weighting did you use?

No weighting,

MLSSA, a computer program with B&K microphone and preamp

ETF with calibrated microphone and preamp

version 2.0 (not my system)

Version 4.7? (my system)

My speakers measured on Version 5.9 calibrated microphone.

IMHO - It seems to me some people are missing the point of the thread. Cinematic systems is trying to create a scientific review to explain his side of a open ended question. I can write a hundred reasons why Cabernet Sauvignon is a better buy than white zinfandel but if someone likes white zin my recomendation is wrong for that person. Bunkeromantik is asking for an opinion not a thesis. I think we all agree Thiel speakers are a exceptional product. I think we all agree that the 2.4s are an upgrade to the 2.3s. Thiel doesn't produce a new model without significant justifiable improvements (the 3.6s long run shows that). Where the gray area is is in the amount of improvement vs. the cost. Only Bunkeromantik's ear can make that call. Bunkeromantik, with the reasonable prices I have seen on Audiogon for 3.6s and higher Thiel models, I would recommend upgrading past the 2.4s(if possible).