Speakers to hang on to for LIFE


After 9 years with my Proac Response 3s, I recently decided to change speakers. As you can tell, I'm not an upgrade fever patient. I want something I can live with for years & I think the best advice I'm gonna get will be from those who have & are still living with their speakers for an extended period of time. Please tell me why too. Thanks.Bob.
ryllau
I'm sure that Ryllau has long since made his decision with or with out help from this clever thread. I have had the same Thiel CS-2's for 14 years. I always wanted the 3 series but my old room couldn't accomodate most of the improvements they offered so I couldn't justify the expense. I have recently moved and now have a room that can handle a bigger system. With that said I can't help but wonder if it's the smaller, lesser speakers that remain in our possesion longest. After all, there's always that bed room, den or what have you that could benefit from a nice little unfussy system. Or perhaps a friend or relative that could use a temporary (long term?) loan that you could accomodate with out too much risk?
Have had Legacy Focus for about 8 years. I listen to speakers in every audio shop I go into and have yet to find those that make me want to change again. These have it all from low lows to high highs and the mid range is outstanding. I used to swap speakers every year or two until I purchased these. My only adverse comment is I found since they are 4 ohm speakers with 7 drivers they do need lots of power to drive them correctly which is generally contrary to what Legacy Audio says. I have a Krell KAV 1500 powering them now ----a good match.
Infinity IRS Betas. They need careful matching with big tube amps on the planars and kilowatt solid state amps on the woofers (IMHO), lots of room, and patience to get set up just right, but when you do, WOW!
Don't know how i missed this thread for so long, but i did. As Macdonj observed above, i have a tendency to hang onto gear. That is, if i like it and think it retains an endearing quality over time. On the other hand, there is some gear that i've had come in my door and leave within the time frame of a week or two. I know that some of you can relate as you've stated so above : )

Having said that, i'll never get rid of my Ohm F's. There is something about an omni-directional point source ( one driver per channel that radiates 360* horizontally ) that covers the entire frequency range that is incomparable to what one gets out of any other type of speaker system. It is so very different that one must experience it for themselves to know what i am refering to. On a good recording, the soundstage is literally "dense as thick fog". You can literally stand in it and walk around with the feeling of complete immersion. The first words that came out of my brothers' mouth were "f**king AWESOME" after experiencing this type of "music reproduction". It was "awesome" because it was no longer just "music reproduction" so much as it was experiencing the "dimensionality" and "atmosphere" of the recording. It was / is experiences like this that make one re-think what a system should sound like and be capable of. After you experience something like this, you'll never look at / listen to a "box" speaker in the same fashion.

Bare in mind that it took me somewhere around a year to really get the F's working decently. Finding suitable amplifiers was a REAL task. We are talking about speakers that average about three ohms across most of their operating range. As if bass does not require enough current to do correctly, these speakers drop to below 2 ohms at low frequencies. Tack on the fact that they are very low in sensitivity, something like 82 - 83 dB's, and you've got one helluva load to try and drive. As such, i don't think that there were really ANY amps made that could do these speakers justice when they were in production. Sure, there were plenty of BIG wattage SS amps back then, but the quality just wasn't there as a general rule. As such, many people wrote off these speakers due to the lack of suitable electronics to drive them. Between the very seamless and revealing nature of the speaker ( no crossovers, multiple drivers or baffle to deal with ), the lack of suitable amplifiers and the fact that there were several engineering flaws designed in from the factory that one would have to overcome BEFORE these speakers would really sing, they faded into the past quite a while ago.

Once i was able to find suitable amplification and tweak the speakers quite a bit, i liked them so much that i drove to Boston ( from Chicago ) to pick up another set to have as spares. As most of you know, the "real" Walsh drivers are only getting older and harder to find due to deteriorating with age. As such, finding a pair that is in good shape and / or been properly repaired and maintained is pretty tough. I've seen way too many Walsh drivers that were damaged beyond repair and / or repaired but not working properly.

With that in mind, looking for and finding a pair of F's worth tinkering with can be a task in itself, let alone putting in the work to really make them sing. If you think that you are going to drop these ( or ANY speaker worth keeping ) into a room, hook them up to an amp and be done with it, think again. I don't know of any "simple" speaker that can do what these or other "highly involved" speaker systems give you when properly set-up. You'll never get the results or the enjoyment that ANY speaker is capable of without putting in a great amount of effort on your part. Sean
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Although I've only had them a little over a year, the Vandersteen 5s will be my LAST speaker. Cheers. Craig