Lyra Atlas experiences


A few years ago, I invested in a Lyra Atlas cartridge / pickup. I have moved up, from Lyra Clavis in the early 2000s and Lyra Titan i later. The Atlas was expensive, but I have not looked back. Yet I wonder, can something more be done, to optimize the Atlas, in my system, and others. How can this remarkable pickup run its best. What are the best phono preamp and system matches. Should the system be rearranged. Have anyone done mods or DIYs to their systems to get the "reception" right? What happened? Comments welcome. You dont need to own a Lyra Atlas but you should have heard it, to join this discussion. Comments from the folks at Lyra are extra welcome - what is your experience.
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Raul
Great, a solid-state howl in the pack!
I am investigating your option right now. A solid state Riaa - Graham Slee Fanfare 3. I have also used a Musical innovations solid state preamp. I replaced it with Einstein the Tube, and have not looked back. I have used Lyras in a solid state system, upgrading from basic to advanced. I doubt if the Atlas sounds best in a pure solid state system, if so, it has to be much better than what I have heard.
Dear @o_holter : SS top designs improved a lot over the 60-70’s old times. Yes, the Atlat can listen it best in a pure top SS design and yes it is better that what you heard.

The real challenge is to find out that audio system supported by top SS electronics.
@o_holter , the worst place to use tube electronic design is on pure active all tube Phono stage. For LOMC cartridges best match are SS bipolars, not even FETs can do it better.

Anyway, just a personal opinion and I don't want to follow argue in this new thread " window " that I think needs its own thread to discuss.

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.
Reading all this, you can see how intellectual arguments can lead anywhere(especially if you get one thing wrong).  I use parameters as an outside guiding force-not the be all and end all of all things.  You need to get in the ballpark(with these), and then use your ears to actually hear what anti-skate does.  I think, once again, focusing on one aspect of the sound, is a mistake.  You can make a minute adjustment-let's say one where the channels seem correctly balanced-but find, after sleeping on it, that your desire to listen has diminished.  This method introduces your subconscious, which holds many more parameters than your conscious, or intellectual mind.  In short, adjust anti-skate based on what anti-skate actually does(learned by incremental changes to it), and not what it does to your system(heck, your speakers could be positioned slightly off, or you amp is slightly different between the channels, etc.).
Thanks, I agree - on some points. Raul, my s-state comparison - the stuff I lived with for a long time, learning to know its potential - included the Krell FPB600, which went far beyond my earlier s-state amps (Tandberg, Revox, Yamaha, plus lower Krell models). Possibly, some other phono stage could outperform my Aesthetix Io in my system, but this is not the point in this debate, even less so, since I find that I am well able to hear adjustement effects also on "lowly" phono stages like the Graham Slee Fanfare 3 that I am using now (since the Io is on repair), a PH-6 that.I borrowed for some time, plus some other s-state units.

Clearly, phono stages differ, how clearly do they show optimal cartridge adjustment, but they mainly point the same way, and even from a minimal box using op amps, like the Fanfare, I can get good enough feedback, to work further.

Mmakshak - listen for overall sound, sleeping on it - your comments match my experience. It is not techical (although indeed very technical, small adjustments, nerdy measurements). It is mainly emotional. What is the impact of the music. This is what I go for, also. If a song I played the evening before breaks into my daily routine the day after, making me want to hum or sing, I smile and think: "got it"!
Dear @o_holter : """   but this is not the point in this debate, """"

of course it's not and I did not posted about because of that but only because that Atlas deserve the better, it has to be surrounded by premium items in the analog rig and PS is part of it as tonearm and the like. Tha's all.

regards and enjoy the music,
R.