Bass rant

I would have to disagree about woofer quality. Just for prosound most cheap out. Using the cheap drivers cost less when replaced, the standard bass cubes are cheaper than horns. Back in the day theaters used some of the better transducers available, today they mostly buy cheap. Still my favorite woofers are all new or modern designs. But not cheap for such. You need to use more power in non horns drivers can take a beating since so pushed and of cheap build. Thus the dammage.

Back in the day theaters used some of the better transducers available, today they mostly buy cheap

That was my point - $50 Made in China low quality wins everytime versus $1000 hand made and high quality from a boutique manufacturer for pro soudn applications...

Plasma and LCD have been out for a while and LED is just LCD on high-contrast steroids, so people are looking for the next sensation. There are non-brick and mortar sub companies out there on the Net are building earth shaking bass to fill the attention void. The folks who buy these units typically are car audio junkies, who use their HT for watching movies. They're not audiophiles and don't care to be. They want bass and the more they can get the better.

I recently purchased two Rythmik Audio F-15 subs for my HT. They are audiophile subs I've set-up for dual use. I purchased two in order to fill 5760 cu. ft. of space, prevent distortion issues and fill the space. I set them to one level for movies and another for music. I'm still searching for the perfect music combination, but I'm very close. As it stands today, the bass I'm getting is allowing my midrange and tweeter to shine like never before. I've got Hales C-5's and with the subs set to the correct level they're sounding more like Vandersteen 5A's. It's a nice addition to my system.

I like bass in Movies, I love the impact. I agree with Elizabeth on theaters though. I hate the way they have the sound configured, sometimes it literally hurts my ears, that's why I like home theater better than movie theater many times.

That said, when I watch a movie, I do have the LFE turned up on the soundtrack. "BOOOOM"!! cool.

On music, I like it to integrate better. I have a Rel B-1 and the volume on the high level (music) connects is only turned up to 4(out of about 25-30) and it's crossed over at 39. Still adds bottom end, but not realistic.

If I use the AppleTV through the reciever (turning off the preamp and using the HT Passthrough) it sound really bloated and kind of slow.

sorry, I meant "but realistic"