Dual Subs


Have been using Tyler D3M's for several months now. Excellent monitors with my Plinius electronics. Have been using them with a DS12 sub.

I'll be educating myself on this over the next while, but thought to throw up a general query. What are the benefits of running two subs? Is there something that two subs deliver that one could never technically produce?

Reason I'm asking is that I am very satisfied with the effect of this sub in my room (room is 35 x 40 x 10 ft high). But I've always wondered what may be the benefit of adding the second sub. I've had one local shop tell me that if indeed you have hit the 'magic' spot, and you are delighted with the sound, the affect of the second sub may be marginal at best. Not knowing if true or not, now considering that route.

thanks for any and all opinions on this
terra3
Let's look at a the situation with a single sub first. The primary bass issue in most rooms is the inevitable peak-and-dip pattern as the subwoofer interacts with the room boundaries. We can shift this peak-and-dip pattern by moving the sub or the listening position, but we cannot make it go away for any listening position without equalization (which can actually make things worse elsewhere in the room). The smaller the room, the farther apart (and more audible) these bass region peaks and dips; and the larger the room, the denser the peak-and-dip pattern. If the peaks and dips are dense (close together), the ear tends to average them out - giving smoother sound. So in general the larger the room, the smoother the bass.

Another way to get a smoother and denser peak-and-dip pattern is to use a second subwoofer, located asymmetricaly with respect to the first. This way each sub will produce a unqiue, dissimilar peak-and-dip pattern at any given listening position. The sum of these two dissimilar peak-and-dip patterns is considerably smoother than either one alone. This is the main advantage of using two or more subs. There are other possible advantages as well, but I won't go into them now.

Since your room is fairly large you probably start out with a smoother than normal peak-and-dip pattern anyway, but that doesn't mean you wouldn't benefit from a second sub.

I disagree with what your local shop told you. There is no magic location where a single sub will produce smooth in-room bass. There will be a "best" locaton where the peak-and-dip pattern is the least objectionable. One minor advantage of using multiple subs is that their positioning is relatively non-critical compared to positioning a single sub.

Duke
dealer/manufacturer
My experience is that one sub can add bass, but two (in stereo) in "live" recording venues, will open up the soundstage and the "volume" of the room, even before you hear the first note of a performance. Balance can be easily upset and locations of the beasts will be important to achieve these positive effects, though.
Two are better, I have used both. Look at Sumiko web site for good info on subs.
I just added a 2nd sub to my system and I am totally happy.Balanced out the room with a better soundstage,and musicality...Music seemed to be better focused..I too have a large room..21x40 with a 8 to 12ft vault though my listening sweet area is 21x14