would I be better off...


Adding external dac (under $400) to my yamaha a-s500, or sell the yammy and get a nad or peachtree with built in dac? I'm thinking that for about a grand, I can get a better sound integrated + dac than I have. Soo, I'm leaning towards selling the yamaha in hopes of upgrading SQ & getting a dac. Complete this sentence. "Based on the current yamaha as500 and no dac with a budget of $1000, I'd ..."
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well, I will start off by saying that I am partial to Yamahas. I personally own a 1977 vintage CA-2010 integrated which is 30W/ch in pure class-A & 120W/ch in class-AB. Beautiful sounding amp & IMO lives up to its name "Natural Sound Amplifier CA-2010" which is printed on the face-plate. I has those vertical knobs just like your amp & volume control is on the extreme right, just like your integrated amp.
I was reading the specs of your integrated - it certainly reads like a very capable amp. 85W/ch at 8 ohms with a max power of 105W/ch & a dynamic power rating of 130W/ch into 8 ohms. I calculated that the 130W/ch dynamic power is a 3.7dB headroom, which is a respectable number for an amp that costs in the $500 range. There were a photo of the inside showing dual heatsinks & what looks like 2 bipolar output devices for push & 2 bipolars for pull per channel. I also noted that it has a "direct" signal path selection i.e. this direct path bypasses all tone controls - this is a feature that I like very much (I can do the same direct signal path in my CA-2010 by defeating all the tone controls as it does not have an explicit knob that says "direct").
IMO, you'd be hard-pressed to find another amp with all these features & the dynamic headroom of your Yamaha integrated.
If you don't like the Yamaha tone control sonics, play your music "direct".
your Yamaha is also iPod & iPhone ready so you could add your favorite iPod dock which has a built-in DAC like the Pure i20 iPod dock (I have this myself) & you'd be up & running in no time.
Yeah, you can also add your favorite external DAC & connect to one of many amp inputs & you'd be able to connect this DAC to the digital output of your iPod dock & you get very good SQ.
There are many good quality external DACs today - troll these Audiogon forums for numerous suggestions. I've not looked for a DAC in a long time hence i won't recommend any.

Sure you can buy a NAD or a Peachtree - make sure you like the sonics of their DAC long-term because you will be "stuck" with that internal DAC from NAD or Peachtree.
If you buy an external DAC, you can switch it out anytime if you don't like its sonics while keeping the rest of your system as-is. Your out-of-pocket expense would be the least - if you don't like the NAD or Peachtree you'll have to sell & your whole system will be down. If you have an external DAC & you don't like it, your iPod playback chain will be down & you can still play CDs & if you have a Bluetooth receiver connected into your Yamaha, you can still stream from your mobile devices. More flexibility with an external DAC, IMO.
Hope this helps. FWIW. IMO. YMMV.
Thank you so much for your input. I had no idea that the design of the Yamaha was that good for its low price. I thought maybe I need something that was 4ohm capable and had more power to get better sound quality. Sounds like I may have to spend twice as much to improve on the yamaha. If I did that, I could look at things like Anthem 225, creek evolution 50a, or exposure 2010s2, etc. I guess I should get an external dac first, and worry about upgrading the integrated later. The iPhone dock of the yamaha has no appeal to me. My music is on an external hard drive of my laptop, and my phone is android. Thanks again for your detailed response I am very appreciative.
The under-$400 DACs currently listed on this site that I'd buy are:
Benchmark dac1
Micromega MyDAC
Paramount z dac
But if you buy a dac, you gotta buy cables...
and If you have a lot of high-res music, not all dacs can play all formats.
Planning on using usb? Mac or Pc?
4 ohm capability depends on your speakers.
I agree with Bomb. I would keep your amp and get an outboard DAC.
Please tell us more about your setup: computer, file types, playback software, speakers.
I'm still learning about all of it, and I'm sure I need a new laptop as my server. I have a decent amount of flac files and my mp3 are mostly 320kb. (Is that cd quality?) But honestly, I stream a lot of spotify for the convenience. My music is stored on a WD passport ultra 2tb external portable hard drive,(and backed up on a 1.5tb toshiba) and my computer is an old laptop used only for my stereo system, but it is an old slow PC Sony Vaio with windows XP. (I got it for free). Dvd/cd players were bought used. Lexicon rt10 and Technics 5 disc that both see no real use.
the lexicon is picky about even slightly scratched discs. Maybe the laser is going bad.They speakers will be upgraded soon. They are used Acoustic Energy Aegis 3 towers. My headphones are Phillips phidellio x1 and my software to play the digital files is?? (Windows media player is not really used). I use mostly Winamp? and VLC media player I believe. Help me please!!! Teach me. The salesmen at these stores just sell stuff, they don't seem to know squat about what PC to use or software of file types, etc. How do I learn? Thanks.