why are two subs harder to place than full range?


sorry if this is a dumb question, but i notice that whenever someone talks about getting stereo subs there usually ensues much hand wringing over placement and room modes, etc., but this rarely is the case when someone talks about full range speakers with large 10 or 12 inch woofers (with or without built in amps for them).

Is there a sound technical basis for this different treatment or is it merely convenience, i.e., since subs can be moved about separately from main speakers, then it makes more since to talk about eliminating room modes by moving them around?

I'm getting a second sub for a rather large vaulted room, have an injured back, and would rather minimize what seems like a rather long process, at least for the time being by just keeping the subs with the mains.

thanks
thomp9015
Generally fullrange speakers offer fewer placement options than two subs would, but on the other hand the designer probably has a pretty good idea of where they will be placed in the room. With dual subs, the range of possible placement options expands enormously as compared to a pair of fullrange speakers.

If you can crossover at or below 80 Hz, and with a 4th order lowpass filter on the subwoofers, then you have a great deal of flexibility regarding subwoofer placement. If you have to cross over higher and/or do not have a steep lowpass filter, then keep the subs near the main speakers. The point of this paragraph is, you do not want to be able to hear the subs as separate sound sources due to lower midrange energy coming through them.

Assuming you can place the subs as you see fit, yes there are several different placement strategies. I favor asymmetrical scattering to average out the room-induced peak-and-dip patterns generated by each low frequency source. You want the subs to be spread out in at least two dimensions, relative to the room boundaries. As the number of spread-out low frequency sources goes up, the importance of the exact placement of any one of them goes down. So in practice, multisubs are usually more placement-forgiving than a single subwoofer is.

Duke
dealer/manufacturer
Try this link on for size.
Some people have already said similar stuff, but this wraps it up and presents it properly::

http://www.harman.com/wp/pdf/multsubs.pdf
For more than a dozen years I used a pair of Magnepan MMGs, each sitting atop its own PSB Alpha subsonic. The combination looked beautiful, and sounded wonderful. I positioned them where the MMG's sounded best, and the subsonics always followed gracefully.
I'll bet my 1.6s would scare you sitting on top of my HSU VTF2mkIII. Total of about 7 1/2 feet tall!