Accurate vs Musical


What is the basis for buying an "accurate" speaker over a "musical" one? I am very familiar with most audiophile jargon but this is one that confuses me. Musical to me means that the speakers convey the "air" or/and overtone of instruments.

"Accurate" on the other hand is what, the accuracy of a single note? If accurate does not convey the space of an instrument, how can it be defined as accurate? I can understand why an "accurate" speaker can be used in a recording studio or as a studio monitor but for casual listening/auditioning?

Thiel is an accurate speaker but Magnepan is more musical so which would truly be more faithful to the original source? Someone please clear this up for me. Thanks.
ebonyvette
You can argue all you want that there is no difference between musical and accurate. Using adjectives as such poses problems because people have different ideas of what they mean. I notice a difference so the average Joe posting within this thread arguing otherwise will not change my mind, as I won’t change his. As this is such a subjective hobby, my speakers must have “soul”. What does this mean? I’m not sure. The best I can explain it is making me forget about this silly hobby for 5 minutes and connect the moment with the music. That is my goal within this hobby and I have almost achieved it - a source away.

I'm a music lover first and foremost...

I’m Anti-Fi I suppose.

*The engineer will purchase a Porsche whilst the passionate aficionado will invest in the Ferrari. Poor investment? You bet. Is it worth it? You bet.*
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I said all this nonsense over tech jargon means zero.
Its how does the speaker sound.
I head the B&W's 602's. So I bought them.
Then I got the seas Thor kit.
BLEW out the water the B&W's.
So its how does the speaker sound. For musical accuracy I've found the Seas to be top dog.
These are very loose terms so there is no use arguing over them. Don't get hung up on the word games: "How can it be musical if it's not accurate", etc. We're trying to describe speakers in a very general way.

Accurate speakers try to get the objective things right. The details of the sound, flat frequency response, phase coherence, etc. Someone mentioned that the word "analytical" might better, although "analytical" sometimes has a negative connotation. The word "accurate" itself has become pretty controversial.

Musical speakers try to get the subjective things right. They are easy to listen to. The details might not be as clear but the music sounds "right" and the speakers don't draw attention to themselves.

The best speakers, of course, are musical ... and accurate!
Accurate includes musical IF music there is. Musical does not include accuracy, however, and 'imposes' music when there isn't any to be had.
I prefer to make up my own mind about whether there is music there or not and not have some other person's interpretation of what music I should hear.
Bob P.
Accurate. By accurate I mean accurate to the musical signals layed down in the original recording. Accurate to what the microphone(s) heard. Musical to one may not be musical to another. If the speaker accurately plays back the original waveform recorded in frequency, amplitude and phase, that speaker will indeed be musical. While it's not that difficult to find speakers that do the first criteria (frequency response) well, the second criteria (amplitude) is much harder (live music can have a dynamic range of 120db) The last (Phase accuracy) is also very difficult as the vast majority of speakers destroy the phase/time relationships of the original waveform. While some might argue that time/phase is not important, ask any musician if one member of the band playing eighth notes instead of quarter notes will be audible. This has been my experience over the past 30 years, YMMV