ZYX Universe and Lyra Titan


I've been reading a lot about the Universe lately but have not read any comparisons with the Titan. Anyone heard them in similiar set-ups? Since I own a Helicon, I receive about a $1,400 credit trading it in for a Titan. Is the Universe $1,300 better at $4,700? I recognize the subjectivity of the question but does anyone have any strong opinions? Thanks.
richardmr

Showing 13 responses by rauliruegas

Dear Richard: I agree with Sirspeedy: there is no " best cartridge " per se.

Like Lugnut, I think that the tonearm makes a great difference.

The exercise where Doug and Lugnut participate: Universe/Olympus it is only a " great analog time " but really don't tell me which one is better. It only can tell me some differences between them: maybe these differences ( for the better ) are because one cartridge makes a better match with that tonearm, we can`t be sure.

In my opinion the only way to really knows which cartridge is better that other one is to find to each cartridge the best tonearm match and do the audio tests in that way.

You have a plus on the Titan because they take the helikon in exchange. For me the Titan could be my first choice, as a fact the Titan is a top performer.

Now if you want to have the best cartridge you have to find which one is the best with your tonearm and find the best for your personal audio quality priorities.

There are many top contenders outside: Transfiguration, Dynavector XV-1, Allaerts MC2 Finish, Clearaudio Insider, Ortofon MC 7500, Van denHul Colibri, Denon Dls1, Koetsu Rosewood Signature Platinum ( in the right tonearm ), Lyra Titan, Ikeda Rex9, Benz Micro LP, ZYX Universe, Shelther 90X, etc, etc. You have a lot of top cartridges options.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.
Dear Doug: I don''t understand your reply to me. Like I already post: five days of analog fun, nothing more.

I think that you already know my opinion about audio tests with more than one people: it's only fun.

A serious ( I'm not saying that you and your audio friends are not serious about ) audio test is something extrictly personal: with out any external influences, in a control of all parameters, in a very well know of the audio system and in the long run time. When there are two or more persons in an audio test a simple head movement from any one of those persons has a great influence in the others ones. There are many other issues and why's the audio tests has to be: personal ( one and only one ).

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.
Dear Richarddmr: All of us in this forum always support the MC cartridges and never " speak " about other great cartridges designs: MM type.

There are great MM top performers that in many ways are better than the MC ones.

Between the MM manufacturers that you can take a look are: Ortofon, Music Maker, Rega, Grado, Audio technica, Clearaudio, Shure, etc, etc.

You or any one will be surprised how good are those MM cartridges: and for a lot, lot less money than the MC ones.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.
Dear Retroinferno/Lugnut: +++++ " Maybe they are the best that he has tried in his arms in his system. " +++++

I agree with Gmorris: that is all about. That does not means that those two cartridges are the " best " on the world, because other cartridges in the right tonearm can beat what Frank already heard.

For any body can do a serious comparation between differents cartridges the first step is to match each of those cartridges with the tonearm where they sound " the best ". Testing differents cartridges in the same ( one or two ) tonearm means almost nothing about which is better, you can have a lot of fun but that's all. The second step is to have a full range high resolution audio system: nothing less.

The reason why I own 15+ tonearms is because I want to match every single cartridge with the " best " tonearm for it: I'm not a tonearm collector.

From my 25+ cartridges I only already match six or seven and when you hear one of them and compare to the others 5-6 it is a very hard choice: all them are really great and you really have to be a live music expert to do the " best " choice. I'm sure that my choice could be different from your choice because: differents live music experiences, different music tastes, different ear frecuency response, etc, etc.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Dear ZYX club friends: +++++ " The ZYX Universe had no deep low bass information at all. " +++++

The 76 doublebass opinion only confirm what for many months I already posted about the ZYX cartridges: faulty at the bass, several times and not only my opinion but severals others opinions like the 76db here. Please there are no excuses for that.

I wonder why you all ZYX club members are satisfied: I'm sure you have good ears and experience in live unamplified music.
Now that I do a research about your audio systems I can see that any of you have a full range system, so any of you can't hear how great is the bass problems in the ZYX cartridges, so don't try to defend what you can't hear and never can hear with your today system: HOW CAN YOU DEFEND SOMETHING THAT YOU DON't KNOW THAT EVEN EXIST ? YOU CAN'T HEAR IT !!!!!!! and you never did till you have a full range system, that's all.
Maybe in the next ZYX cartridges generation they can solve that bass problems.
I really desire that they do it because if they do I'm sure that my next cartridge in my system will be a ZYX one, but not before. All of us deserve more that what ZYX is given today for its price.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.
Dear Lugnut: +++++ " Further, I was more irritated with what I viewed as an unwarranted attack on Frank Schroder " +++++

I never attack to Frank, I respect him like a person and like a great tonearm designer. What I already post about is something that every body understand and almost agree but you. I respect your opinion too.

Btw, I agree with Gmorris last post.

Every time that I disagree with you or with any of your members club always post that I'm attaking any one of you: sorry but you don't have any idea what " attack " means.

Stay calm and be happy: all of you.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.
Dear Frank: I only do a reference on you because the wrong statement: " one of the two best cartridges in the world".

Btw, I'm not bragging any thing, I'm only trying to explain that for any one can do a serious cartridge comparison it has to match each cartridge with the best tonearm for each one, that's all.

+++++ " In fact, I own more arms than you do and have likely owned more carts too. " +++++

Great to know this. I hope that in a near future you can share with us your wide cartridge/tonearm experiences.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.
Dear Nrchy: I don't know if I understand your post: are you tell me that I have to apology to Frank?

If this is what you told me let me know you that I don't have to send an apology to Frank because I don't insult or attack him.

+++++ " shared from someone who knows what they are talking about as opposed to... " +++++

If you are implying what I figure I can tell you that you don't know what are you talking about.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.
Dear Cello: +++++ " . There have been a couple of comments from people like 76doublebass that are illogical or un-supported " +++++

I don't think that a person with the live music experience like 76doublebass is " illogical " like you say. Your arguments all over your post are " illogical ".

+++++ " Are you saying the I, Frank Schroder, Chris Brady, Vetterone, Stanfi, and Doug Deacon don't have full range systems. " +++++

First, Frank is not a member of your club ( He already speaks about ) and Doug, Lugnut and your system are far aways from " full range ". +++++ " You continue to make arguments about things you do not know or have experience " +++++ Wrong, who has no expirience is you: you can't hear the bass problems through your system due for bass deficiencies on your system.

+++++ " I know you won’t respond to this, but please tell us the names of all of the Audiogon members that have posted that the UNIverse is lacking in bass and in which threads. " +++++

I think that you can remember that Audiogoner that put on sale his Colibri for do a change to the ZYX. I e-mail to him asking for his reason to do that and through the time he back off and retain his Colibri and sold the ZYX: this man has a full range audio system. I can't remember in what thread.
If I can remember Thomasheisig that " just ordered chips and coke .... " give a ZYX opinion about or Johnnantais, I'm not sure.

+++++ " I really don’t know what got your panties in a twist against ZYX, " +++++

I'm not against the ZYX manufacturer ( as a fact I think that I'm helping to them for incite for they make research about to do a better cartridges in a near future. ). I'm against people like you that do false statements like : " the Universe is the best on the world ". This statement is unsupported by any standards.

Larry stay calm, put on sale your ZYX and buy a Dynavector XV-1, or a Colibri, or an Allaerts, or a Transfiguration and you will be happy about. If you do this you never return to today ZYX cartridges.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.

Dear Nrchy: Leave the people to answer by itself. are you the whole mannager? and answer what I ask you.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.
Dear Richard: +++++ " I've yet to offer an opinion by Raul but here goes - let him sonically masturbate all he wants. " +++++

This is very unfair from you, if you read my first post in your thread you can " see " that I posted what I think could help to you for what you are asking for.
If you don't like it what I posted there you only have to say so, but why you attack?

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.
Dear larry: +++++ " . I have zero patience with him or his behavior. " +++++

Please don't read and don't refer to any of my post and if you don't want to " hear " on me: change of forum.

You was one of the members of this forum that told us that the " Universe was the best on the world ": this statement is stupid and ignorant, no question about.

+++++ " . There are people that can be influenced by those comments and it is not fair to them. " +++++

So you think that that Universe statement is fair for them?, come on !!!! wake up.

I can remember when I start at this forum: all of you attack me because I don't agree with you and I have differents opinions . No one of you ( others people did ) care about that.
The problem with your club is that any one has to agree with you and when some one like me disagree then you react in a negative way. I'm telling you stupid/ignorant only because you use that words with me but I don't usually insult to any body in this forum like many of you and other peoples do with me.

What is all about: I think that all of you an me have more things in common that differences.

I always try to hrlp and be honest: I always post what I think and what is my experiencies. I know that you don't like it but that is up to you: I can't do nothing about.

My advise is that many of you have to break with those old audio paradigms that are out of today reality. I already do and that's why our differences.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.
Dear Gmorris: Tks for your understanding. I really appreciate that.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.