Zero Antiskate vs Stylus Wear


This article, based on a long term study, was “plagiarised” from another Forum. It’s quite an old article so apologies to “older heads” for whom this may be old news.
It comes from an era when light VTF = good, but was not necessarily true, however the basic principle of long term wear looks sound.
Styli were tested to destruction over their full lifecycle.

http://www.audiomods.co.uk/papers/kogen_skatingforce.PDF

Viewers may have to cut & paste but in the event of difficulty with the link I will give a brief summary :

Of 14 cartridge samples tested without bias, 9 of them suffered excessive wear on the inner groove. One was neutral and the remaining 4 were “outer wall”.
When bias compensation was applied to a group of 6 samples, the wear pattern that resulted was symmetrical.

Given the strong and logical argument that skating damages styli asymmetrically – and gives a skewed reading of the LP over time, the “deviations” are a concern i.e. why 4 of them behaved oppositely.
Poor bearings? Arm cable too stiff? Wrong geometry?

IMO most turntable enthusiasts considered it self evident that unilateral force would cause this type of wear pattern so we didn’t need to be told but documented study, even one as old as this, is always interesting.
The photograph of the spherical stylus is poorly resolved on this copy but it makes the point quite graphically.

Based on long term experience that the simplest things can affect the sound of a turntable, I cannot deny that the idea of “de-stressing” the cantilever by removing a poorly directed/located AS force IS attractive and may produce a degree of audible benefit…at first...(?!?!?!!!)
The doubter in me always asks the question : can a mechanical assembly successfully zero out all mechanical influence and give a pure result? (If true zero AS is the goal even arm damping might be prohibited?)

The principle of using excessive VTF (up to 50% more) to achieve the same “trackability”, without bias, it was suggested, merely accelerates the unilateral wear & tear with (presumably) commensurate damage to the LP(?)
The proposed compensation of up to ”50% extra VTF” sounded a bit excessive to me.
(I’d balk at applying more than 0.1g over maximum.)

Old as it is, I found this study mildly unsettling.
Comments and opinions are invited from both Zero-antiskate adherents and those who always use AS.
moonglum

Showing 2 responses by john_gordon

Nick,
The forces you mention will be just the same in any arm, whether with straight or offset cartridge, as long as it has an overhang.

And similar overhang or underhang will produce similar skating forces, everything else being equal.

In your example, the arm has zero overhang at one point, which also coincides with it being a null, ie stylus and cantilever tangent to the groove.

As soon as an arm has any overhang there will be skating forces irrespective of whether there are nulls or not. Cartridge offset is a bit of a red herring.

See http://odysseytonearms.blogspot.co.uk/2011/10/antiskate.htmlfor more info on antiskate.
John
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Nick and Lewm,
I should have checked my post, as I meant to say that the arm in Nick's straight arm example "has zero skating forces at one point, which coincides with it being a null..." (not overhang)

The arm has underhang as measured from the turntable centre, and so experiences positive and negative skating forces, as the orientation of the arm varies as it pivots. There is just one point where both the arm and cantilever are tangent to the groove (as in a linear tracking arm) and so there is neither skating force nor tracking angle error. However, everywhere else the error becomes extreme and difficult to compensate for.

To reduce the error there has to be overhang, and as this is increased until, at two points (which will later be the nulls) the errors are equalised either side of a particular value.

The reason for cartridge offset is to minimise the error angle with regard to the stylus, and set the cantilever and stylus in line with the groove, thus constituting a null at two points, but this does not alter the angle between groove tangent, stylus and arm pivot which still varies across the record and is never zero.

And it is this angle which generates the skating force i.e. that between the groove tangent and the arm effective length, and only at the nulls is it the same as the value of the equalised tracking error angle and the cartridge offset angle.