It depends on what you are using it on @pguezze
Majestic MKII is 12 gauge. For amps I would recommend Prima MKII which is 10 gauge, and a more advanced shielding. They are both OCC conductors.
There is also Fina at 14 gauge, cheaper, also OCC
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It depends on what you are using it on @pguezze
Majestic MKII is 12 gauge. For amps I would recommend Prima MKII which is 10 gauge, and a more advanced shielding. They are both OCC conductors.
There is also Fina at 14 gauge, cheaper, also OCC |
Thanks for sharing your initial impressions @juanmanuelfangioii ! These are indeed great cables for the price. And since I completed my Zavfino loom a while ago (as I have continuously updated earlier on in this thread) I have honestly stopped looking & purchasing other cables. |
Congratulations @larsman . I am assuming you know they are directional? They are somewhat non traditional (no arrows).
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@larsman : I have a picture Raymond emailed me when I bought mine. Did you buy yours from Zavfino USA? He always sends the picture to buyers. I don’t know how to post that picture here. You can PM me your email address. Basically, Zavfino letters up on the speaker cable going to left speaker, and upside down to the right speaker |
Well, @lalitk made me do it 😂🤷♂️. The only thing I did was posting a new dedicated Zavfino thread.
Honestly, since I went all in Zavfino, full loom, I stopped looking at cables. Which is a big deal for me. I have spent years, time, and (a lot of) money swapping cables. Until now. That’s it for me |
@jaymark : you should have started with the Fusions first, then worked the way up to the top with the Silver Darts 😂. Congratulations, going to the top tier leaves no room for regret down the road, and merry go around of selling and buying.
One thing I can tell you from my experience, the Darts require a substantial break in. A lot. Substantially more than the Prima power cords and speaker cables. Maybe because of the Graphene? Give them a couple of weeks of continuous play, and you will then no longer want to switch around. |
I would not call Prima (and the Darts) having the stage placed behind the speakers. I have had many speaker cables over the years, and some were really behind the speakers. Some too forward. IMO, from all the cables I have owned, and I don’t claim to have owned them all, the Zavfino are just right on that regard |
@toolbox149 : I posted something on this back on my 11/5/2021 post. Copy / paste a portion of it:
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I received the Prima OCC speaker cables. Right off the bag, they sound fantastic! It’s been a while I have been this excited with speaker cables. And definitely the first time with this current speaker/ amp combination (B&W 803 D3 and T+A PA 3100 HV). They sound extremely smooth and full bodied, with a very rich texture/ tone / timbre. Very high resolution, yet, with zero fatigue. I cannot find any weakness with them. Absolutely amazing value at that price. I am very happy. |
Yes indeed @tyray and @hifipassion Absolutely great value per dollar. Even at lower tiers. I don’t have a turntable/ analog system right now, so I know very little in that area, but I believe Zavfino really got started in tonearm and other turntable cables at the beginning (check the main company name, 1877Phono) |
jayctoy2,661 posts10-11-2021 10:49amLalitk mentioned this Cables to me as well, I thought they are very expensive.I need powercord. @jayctoy : Value in terms of price vs. benefit is all relative, and depends on each buyer. To me, for a 14 AWG OCC power cord (Fina) at $288 or 12 AWG OCC (Majestic) at $390, and 9 AWG OCC (Prima) at $560 retail, is not expensive at all. However, I realize for most people who are not in this hobby, those prices may sound insanely high. Bottom line is everything is relative and perceived. |
@grannyring : for power cords with Zavfino, I was told the "in-house" break in process is equivalent to 40 hours of continuous playback, and they reach optimal performance in approximately 100-200 hours total. I put mine on a heavy duty ventilator non-stop for about four days 24/7, then in my audio. It sounded great at that point, and I preferred it over the $3,000+ MSRP power cord it replaced like-for-like |
lak3,989 posts10-13-2021 5:00pmI just received my pair of Fusion interconnects. I noticed there is not a direction arrow, does that mean that these are non-directional? Just continue to always use them in the same direction regarding input and output?@lak --- my Prima speaker cables I bought earlier did not have any arrows, but Raymond emailed me at the time of purchase a PDF with a picture that explained how to connect them (putting the Zavfino letters upside down in orientation onto the right speaker). I would recommend sending an email to Raymond and ask him. He is usually pretty good in responding. |
Hi @grannyring : thank you for posting your impressions on Majestic MKII power cord. I have no doubt the Hijiri sounds great, as @lalitk also attests. But a think a fairer comparison with your $1,500 HIJIRI Nagomi power cord would have been the graphene insulated Zavfino Silver Dart power cord at $930 MSRP, 10 gauge, especially for an amp, instead of the 12 gauge, $390 Zavfino Majestic. The Silver Darts are top of Zavfino line, graphene dielectric and shield. I have two on my way. The Prima PC I have (also 10AWG, no graphene), at $560 is an outstanding PC, competing right there with much more expensive power cords I have owned and still own. |
@ozzy --- yes, that makes sense. I would however, test them vs. my better power cords (i.e. PC to DAC or Amp) currently, just because. @danmar123 --- I think I read somewhere that their in-house break in is equivalent to 40 hours of playback time, and the optimal break in is somewhere between 100 and 200 hours total if I am not mistaken. |
Thanks for sharing @dalims4. And that’s the beauty of this hobby. We all hear differently, have different tastes, different rooms, different gear that reacts to different cabling and peripherals. It’s great we have many great quality choices, at any price range. What I have found with Zavfino is that they react very well to “full loom” concept. Meaning all cables from the same brand, and preferably same tier of same brand. I am gradually getting there. The more I add, the better the overall system sounds as a whole. The improvements are cumulative, and I believe mostly due to the full loom concept. And for much lower cost that I have often spent in the past several years with other brands’ full looms I have owned and tried. |
Not yet @kimurastanley.@kimurastanley.I received two silver darts power cords yesterday, but I am letting them break in somewhere else (not audio). I currently have and use the following: One Prima MKII power cord Prima MKII speaker cables (I use two runs / pairs for biwire) Silver Darts XLR interconnects As I mentioned above on my previous post, I am gradually getting there, full loom Zavfino. It will be a combination of Silver Darts & Prima when all is said and done |
Here, I found my Cardas Clear Reflection old ad: https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lis9c097-cardas-audio-clear-reflection-cardas-clear-reflection-spe... It looks like I sold them almost three years ago. |
Honestly @sdl4 it’s been several years since I owned Cardas Clear Reflections. Different speakers, different amps. It’s been a while and there is no way for me to remember and compare with Zavfino. I did not even know Zavfino existed until earlier this year. Over the years I have owned and tried many speaker cables, including Cardas, Synergistic Research (all three tiers of Atmosphere X), Audioquest William Tell, Triode Wire Labs, Shunyata Alpha v2, Crystal Clear Audio, and more. So here is that. I’d say if you own and like Clear Reflection XLR ICs, it’s only logical to complete the “loom” and buy Reflection speaker cables. I would do that if I were you |
OP here, quick update: My pursuit of Zavfino is now over. Because the full Zavfino loom is complete. My system is pretty simple. Digital only. Streaming DAC, transport, integrated amp, speakers. Here is my Zavfino lineup:
The non-Zavfino stuff is the Ethernet cable (Synergistic Research Atmosphere X Reference) and the Shunyata Omega XC power cord for my Shunyata Everest power distributor. They will both remain as is. The last piece of the puzzle was the pair of Silver Darts speaker cables for the HF run, which replaces the Prima MKII (shortly up for sale, maybe this weekend). The second run for LFs will remain Prima MKII. I could not be happier with Zavfino, especially as I gradually added more. The improvement is definitely cumulative, and the “full loom” concept in full display. If I were to describe the sound I get with one word, it would be “natural”. To my ears, best tonal accuracy I have ever had, and a very pleasant timbre, the one I like. Additionally, my sound opened up way more than I thought would ever be possible given the limitations of my room. I struggle to remember better sound (fellow audio lovers local friends, audio shows). Not trying to brag. Ok… maybe a little bit 😂😂 From my short / mid term observations: you don’t need to pay a lot of money to get the Silver Darts. The lower tier models are most definitely great value for the money, and the law of diminishing returns kicks pretty hard when paying a lot more for the Silver Darts. That’s of course with my ears and my equipment/ room combination, so your mileage may vary. So why I did mostly Silver Darts? Two reasons: 1) avoid future regret and prevent the thought of upgrading down the road, losing money in the process, and 2) while Silver Darts are not cheap, they are definitely very reasonable price wise compared to the top performing cables from the usual brands. Have been there, done that, so I am very familiar. My total full loom Zavfino cost is lower than the cost of several full looms from other more mainstream brands I have had in the past. It’s all relative, and we all have the anchoring biases, which I am cognizant of. Finally, the built quality, packaging, presentation are all top notch. Those who have bought brand new can attest I am sure. They look top quality in presentation & packaging, and let’s face it: this matters in terms of brand perception. Buying process on website is extremely easy and convenient, here in US one central location, buy direct, online, no dealers. One guy to deal with, Raymond, who has been extremely helpful, knowledgeable, and professional. |
The cable was pretty beat up with the prior owner. But you already knew that: https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/649786264-zavfino-silver-dart-15m/ |
Oh, and it sounds like you are the proud fourth owner (at least) of this one specific PC: https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/649744085-zavfino-occ-silver-dart-power-cord/ Just go to the feedback of your seller, Steven in Georgia, and you will see what I am talking about: https://www.usaudiomart.com/userfeedback.php?user_id=152826 Anyways, I apologize for digging into these matters. Not my business. I would sincerely hope that a $6,000 power cord would sound better than a $930 power cord. Do the math. You are not new in this. You can figure all this stuff out. |
I am pretty sure it’s the same exact cable. Look at the pictures, ads, and the feedback on your seller I linked. Or just ask your seller, who is participating in this thread. It’s obvious to me. Anyways. Hopefully you get your cable fixed, and get your five hundred American dollars back in some shape or form. Fourth owner or not, it does not matter |
kimurastanley: I touched upon this briefly on my previous (long-ish) post above, but a to expand a bit further: The only cables I was able to compare (and own) direct between Prima MKII and Silver Darts are power cords and speaker cables. Interconnects --- I only own the Silver Darts which I bought from the start. Silver Darts are NOT a huge improvement over Prima MKII, and Prima is definitely better value for the money. Of course, this is only valid for me, my equipment, my ears, my room. Other people with more elaborate systems and better trained ears may think otherwise. If someone forces me to "quantify", Silver Darts are perhaps 5-10% better than Prima MKII. Same overall tonality and timbre, but maybe a bit more coherent / focused, and a bit more "airy". My advise, if someone is looking at Zavfino: if in budget - you are better off doing a full loom of "lesser" tiers (i.e. Prima, majestic, Fusion, etc.), than buying one or two silver darts. Hope this helps. Take it with a grain of salt. One man’s experiences & opinion. |
I am curious @ozzy what did you do with your broken Silver Darts power cord? |
@ozzy thank you for the update. Glad you were able to get a brand new power cord |
@abd1 The standard bananas are BFA , not locking. You have to specifically order locking bananas. I know very well, I have ordered and own their speaker cables with BFA bananas
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Thanks for sharing your impressions @sdl4 and thanks for pointing to that fairly recent review on Zavfino I was not aware of. Simple writing but to the point. I would also say, like I have said earlier, the Zavfino effect in one’s system is cumulative. The more you add in the chain, the better everything sounds as a whole. The full loom concept. So if you can, get some Nova or Prima speaker cables, Majestic or Prima power cords. Just my two cents |