Your favorite musical non fatiguing speakers?

They are grossly overpriced, and grossly technically deficient. Tiny gauge for lots of money, ringing cables.

Well, you bought one of the best speaker lines on the market, based on sound, not "paid by advertising" reviews. Enjoy.

Everest 67000 yes, Tara no. There are smoother cables that deliver just as much detail as those.

Yes also on Verity.

Yes also on Tannoy as long as it is the "pepperpot" waveguide.

No on the Magico Q. It's all relative. Magico Q are non-fatiguing compared to an ice pick in the ear, but not compared to something like a Tannoy as long as it is a "pepperpot" Tannoy.

Wavetouch, what a load of horse _ _ _ _ you are spinning.

This includes the "almost all listener fatigue comes from your room acoustics".

Most listener fatigue comes distortion in the chain including speakers. That you have supposedly produced a speaker that has "no listener fatigue" is a claim so huge as well as dogmatic as to lose any credibility you were looking for.

I meant "Mihorn" was spreading horse _ _ _ _. I called him by his company name, Wavetouch. I hope most of you knew what I meant.

Wow, Alex, blowing your own horn is a specialty. Look, leave it to others to do that. Self-reporting is notoriously unreliable. And very, very unflattering.

Some good thoughts from Johnnyb, except the brightness range (2k to 5k) is more associated with fatigue than 100 to 200hz.

And definitely ringing tweeters higher up than 2 to 5k can drive folks crazy, like one brand has so demonstrated.

Geoffkait, everything is involved in increasing distortion when the volume goes up.

First is your impression, even the base level of distortion becomes more intolerable when the volume goes up.

Second, the transducers, the speakers or headphones, absolutely rise in distortion with higher volume levels. Most speakers compress badly, and when compression is involved there is a lot of distortion going on.

Third, the distortion of the electronics goes up in almost all cases. There are exceptions for electronics, where the distortion goes down as power output goes up, but that's not normally the case.

Geoff, not everything is black and white. Systems do not go from "nice sounding" to "intolerable distortion" over a 1 db range. It is a gradual thing. But the ear does tend to suddenly notice things when they get to a certain threshold, just as the eye does....we don't sense things linearly.

In the last 20 or 25 years, it has certainly not been a huge priority of high end to get extremely loud playback at low distortion levels. Producers have been fixated on imaging, pretty female vocals, lots of deep bass, and maybe above all "high definition" or lots of detail, because reviewers and audiophiles fixated on that stuff, especially the detail.

Remember, most of the folks spending the big bucks are heavily influenced by the reviews and manufacturer hype. I think most of the expensive speakers have plenty of problems, the least of which is rising distortion with louder playback levels. Pricing has gone crazy, but sonic quality has not kept pace on a linear level with pricing.