Your favorite musical non fatiguing speakers?


I've been auditioning speakers in the $5k to $8k range. I liked some of the Dynaudio, Sonus Faber, and even B&Ws in that range. Maybe it was the setup but in the back of my mind thought all of these could sound exciting but also fatiguing long term. And I'd hate to spend that kind of doe with that being the case.

I'm looking to use a solid state Cary amp and the tubed Cary SLP 05 pre for electronics FWIW.

From other threads I'm hearing Proacs Joseph Audio Aerials Harbeth and others may fit the bill. What are your favorite speakers for musicality and lack of listening fatigue? I'll be traveling to the next state to audition more next week.
larrybou

Showing 3 responses by johnnyb53

Listener fatigue also comes from digital artifacts such as jitter and bad phase relationship, and from tweeters that suffer from excessive overshoot, ringing, and "oilcan" resonances. It can also come from a persistent strong "one note" resonance, most commonly in the 100-200 Hz region.

There are many contributors to listener fatigue, but a little room ambience and reverb is pretty far down the list. When you consider that indoor live music is largely defined by the reverberant field, and that some of the more reverberant concernt venues are highly prized (e.g., Boston's Symphony Hall, Cincinnati's Music Hall, etc.) then the idea that room interaction is the primary cause of listener fatigue borders on the preposterous.

Add to this that dipoles such as the Nolas, MarinLogans, and Magnepans all rely on the backwave, as well as highly regarded bipolar and omni speakers such as the Mirages, Ohms, Shahinians, and MBLs, and it's obvious that--while bad room interactions can contribute to listner fatigue--there are plenty of examples of speakers that rely on beneficial room interaction with very pleasurable results.

Note also that in the latest iteration of Sonus Faber speakers, (which as a group are regarded as *very* fatigue-free), their top line $200K "The Sonus Faber" and $120K Aida models feature front and rear-firing drivers for a bipolar radiating pattern. This obviously brings the room reverberation into the playback presentation.

Taking room interactions out of the radiating pattern doesn't remove listener fatigue; it makes it easier to hear more precisely what's on the recording like in studio monitoring, which may or may not be fatiguing due to other factors.

In the last 20 or 25 years, it has certainly not been a huge priority of high end to get extremely loud playback at low distortion levels. Producers have been fixated on imaging, pretty female vocals, lots of deep bass, and maybe above all "high definition" or lots of detail, because reviewers and audiophiles fixated on that stuff, especially the detail.
I can't completely agree with this. I have heard Wilson Alexandria X-2s and XLFs that definitely reproduce the full dynamic range of a big band or 100-piece orchestra at close range without distracting distortion, and I'm confident that top line products from Magic, Focal Utopia, and others can achieve the same sensation.

That's what the big bucks should buy you--range, both frequency response and dynamic range. Many speakers can recreate solo acoustic guitar or voice realistically for $2K or less. The air gets rarified when you look for a speaker that presents the same sense of reality for an orchestral/choral reproduction of a Mahler symphony, Holst's "The Planets" or Mendelssohn's "Elijah," or of the Ellington or Basie big bands in full swing from the front row. I've gotten that sensation from the Wilson Alexandrias and I'm sure others here have experienced (or own) this sensation from other fine full-range loudspeakers properly amplified.

06-02-14: Schubert (speaking of Diana Krall)
Piano OK, voice and beat never meet.

Not true on "All For You," which is tight and precise all the way.
Still my favoriate album of hers, backed just by her bassist and Russell Malone on guitar. They had just come back from an extended live tour and were totally tight.