You were right about adding a sub.

Bdp24, no offense taken. What sub do you recommend? I've read about Rel but never heard one personally. 

Srosenberg, I'll check the article out. I don't have a way to move the sub closer without losing the ability to cut frequencies from the mains. I'm using speaker level inputs. I do have a wireless subwoofer rec/transmitter that gives me the ability to place the sub wherever, but taking the load off the mains seems to have made the most difference in sound, or it seems that way. 

Shadorne, I had B&W 801s3 in the room years ago. Don't know if a sub would have helped- never tried it. Again, my biggest gain has been midrange and treble clarity.

Thanks for your input/ guidance.
Gary

I appreciate everyone's comments. The Sound Cylinder sounds pretty good in the blend- but I'm still dialing it in.

My aging Mirage dual 8" sub sounds great in my bedroom system. I've been reading up on subs designed primarily for music and I'm likely to go for something to replace the Svs, and return it to my home theater setup.

Vandersteen and Rythmik are interesting to me. Of course Rel and Jl Audio are popular.

I like the option to cut the low end frequencies to my mains. I think I may be limited to speaker level connections to accomplish this, since my Integrated does not have an amp in option- but it does have pre-out jacks. 

Avsjerry- I like the opportunity of the Behringer - but it is way beyond my level of expertise.

There is probably a way to cut frequencies to my mains without using speaker level inputs. Once I get close to deciding on a model, I'll call and try to educate myself.

Such a great hobby! My girlfriend is getting more and more interested in audio and seems to increasingly enjoy music. 

Thanks again!

Bdp24,

I assume the capacitor would be installed inside the Integrated, since my unit has no 'amplifier in' jacks. I do have pre out jacks, fwiw. 

Unfortunately, my modding skills are um...well... I don't have any! 

I do need to learn different ways to accomplish cutting the low frequencies from my mains so the subwoofer setup I buy does the trick. It's surprising to me how big a difference it makes to my speakers. I thought 225 wpc was plenty to power the main full range and then blend the sub at the bottom.

Currently, with speaker level connections and the sub crossed about 50-60, I feel like I have totally new speakers. Biggest change is increased detail, or at least the illusion. Either way, I'm happy with the improvement. 

Wish I had some of you guys wisdom and aptitude for audio- I sincerely appreciate your input, etc. 

Best Holiday wishes,
gary

Bondmap,

What a great feeling! I'm loving it but feel like the right sub would give me a little more mid bass definition and taughtness. 

I own a dspeaker sub processor that may help but it's still in my home theater setup. Can't use it with the speaker wire connections I'm using. I've owned Vandersteen 2ce sigs and think highly of the brand. The Vandersteen sub is on my list.

Thanks,
gary

Slaw, good feedback, thanks. With my current setup I can't cut freqs using line level inputs. I own a preamp and tube monos that would let me try it out- at some point I'll switch the gear around.

Are you cutting low freqs to your Ushers, or running them full range and blending the sub at the bottom?

Regards,
gary

Slaw, 

My room is 14x18, with the 18' area opening into a foyer/dining room about 14' deep.

The room has carpet, heavy drapes, etc. Aside from the opening to the rear, it is open to the kitchen adjacent to the left speaker. I have no specific room treatment currently.

I appreciate the offer on the subs. I'm pretty slow moving when it comes to buying, hope you understand. I'm also wanting to use one sub if possible.

For the most part, I'm pretty happy with my setup- but feel I could benefit from some extra mid bass definition. Rythmik has a dual 8" sub that is very interesting to me, and may be just what I need.

I called Svs and they told me speaker level is my only option to cut low frequencies to my mains.

Thanks for all your help,
gary

Slaw,

My integrated doesn't have a pre out and amp in. Only pre out. 

I'm thinking I can use the RCA inputs on the sub if I place the sub between the preamp and amp.

With my current setup I don't know another way to cut the low frequencies from my mains unless I use the speaker wire option. If I had amplifier in jacks it would be nice.

Regards,
gary

Thanks slaw, Happy Holidays!

ct0517,

I had the golden flute bass filter (think that was the name) installed when I had the 801's. At the time I could not give them the power they deserved probably.

I sold them locally and the guy still has them last I knew. 

Gary

Bdp24,

That's the Rythmik I'm interested in- thanks for the feedback. Seems to be a good fit for my needs. I own a dual 8" Mirage that sounds nice for music in my bedroom system. It blends nicely with some Silver Monitor Audio speakers.

I think it would give me many options going forward if I change speakers. I own Silverline Minuets that may mate well with it, too.

Thanks again,
gary

rbsteho,

I gain a lot of top end definition when I cut the low frequencies from the Ushers.

With your suggestion, I'll try running the speakers full range.

Did you try the speaker level route with your Ushers? I was surprised at the difference, due to the anthem's 225 wpc, but taking the lows away made a most noticeable difference.

Thanks for sharing your experience,
gary

Imhififan-

Thanks for the help! I looked and they offer a 80hz version as well. 

I think that will get me close enough to try. If it works out, I'll be able to use my wireless sub trans/rec and have more placement flexibility. 

Thanks again!
gary

Sonicdead- I passed on a local Rel, and could kick myself!

imhififan, I'm not sure I'll figure anything out that would be of value, but appreciate your confidence in me! 

Happy New Year!

Blessyou,

In my set up, the speaker wire route is my only option for cutting low frequencies from my main speakers and routing them to my sub. Doing this improves the sound of my main speakers - but I assume this varies from setup to setup.

Opinions differ regarding what is better if you able to choose. Also, some choose to run their speakers full range and blend the sub into the mix where the mains trail off.

There are many articles online about this subject, and again, opinions differ.

If you have the options, trying each and picking which you like best would be my advice. 

Disclaimer- I'm far from the most knowledgeable on here.

Hope this helps,
gary