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You were right about adding a sub.

I've had subs around the house, but used them mostly for home theater.

From time to time, some of you have encouraged me to use a sub in my 2 channel setup. Curiosity got the best of me over the Holidays and I hooked up a sub using speaker level connections and used the sub's crossover.

My speakers are Usher 6311 and my Integrated is an Anthem 225.

What a difference it made to not only the bass line, but cutting the lows increased the soundstage, improved detail, etc. I feel like I have new speakers, And the bug to try other speakers is gone.

Thanks for the tip- wish I would have tried it before now! For those of you that are tempted, it may be worth a try, it certainly was is my case. I'm using a Svs Sound Cylinder, fwiw. 

Regards,
gary

uncledemp

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uncledemp:

Thanks for responding with more info.

I hope you get the right equipment for musical satisfaction.

Cheers!

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Without knowing some of the answers to the questions I posted...

(1) What would it take for you to go line-level?
(2) What size room?
(3) Room acoustical treatments?
(4) Thoughts on purchasing a (1) new sub based upon recommendations here vs.a chance on trying (2) with the advice of their log time user at a substantial lower cost?
(5)???
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Is your lack of flexibility the fact you'd have to purchase more cables for a "better solution"?)
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Is it your current sub's lack of flexibility?
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uncledemp:

Your question is a paradox?

I've had different results depending upon my (then) systems' configuration.

When you say "I own a preamp and tube monos that would let me try it out"...

Can you tell me why you cannot try it now? I may have missed something in your explanation of your system?
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uncledemp:

I've tried several times throughout the years and many system configurations.. the speaker level outputs/vs/line level.. I've always used line level. In my experience, it has been a night & day difference. Others may differ. I know Mapleshade's Pierre Spray does.

In my experience, sub placement is critical not only to achieve best integrated bass but soundstage accuracy. This includes the proper placement of lower bass frequencies, the focus and depth as well. It all works together and in my experience, if one gets the "bass right" everything else comes into focus. I can move my subs as little as 1/4" and notice a difference in my dedicated music room.
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uncledemp:

Something to consider after everything else??

(I have a pair of Martin Logan Grotto's I bought new, just sitting around, never going to be used. I have a pair of like new Auralex Subdudes that go with it. Maybe more things you may like??) These subs are adorned with most necessary adjustments needed.

Cheers
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uncledemp:

I hope I can ad something here.

What are your room dimensions? Is your room treated?

I own Usher speakers. I still have a pair of BE-718s...I replaced them with Tiny Dancer Mini One Diamonds.

My room is rather small, but pretty well treated, and everything positioned  (through hours & hours ) of listening. I use two Martin Logan Depth i.

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