+1 to the OP and to blisshifi 😊
You don't lack bass, you have too much treble
One of the biggest surprises in audio and acoustics is how damping a room with treatments makes small speakers sound so much bigger. Yes, you get a broader, deeper soundstage but you also seem to get a lot more bass, more power, more extension!!
What's going on?
What happened is your room was too bright. The overall balance was too heavy on the mid and treble so as a result your systems balance was off.
For this reason I often suggest before A'goners start chasing bigger and bigger speakers, that they think about the room first, add damping and diffusion and then go back to thinking about the bass.
Not saying you don't need a bigger speaker, but that some rooms may never have a big enough speaker in them due to the natural reflective properties.
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my K340 is an hybrid with two dedicated cells and with an internal grid of 5 Helmholtz tuned resonators separating perfectly among other effects bass and mids and making this phone to give deep bass without flowing interaction with usual bass.. Not only that but i modified and optimized them with 6 mods... The main one is i put inside and outside anti resonance materials and dampers of two kind to comnplement each others ... By bone resonances i feel deep bass with my chest and feet... is it 20 hertz ? i did not measure it but i listen big church organ music of Bach and some organ go down 8 hertz... I am pretty sure i hear then 20 hertz or near it with my feet ... I disliked all headphones i bough... Save the K340 i like a lot after 6 months of intensive studies about it even with the original paper of the founder of AKG who design it... I spoke with Kennerton representant about hybrid headphones as the K340... Because i asked them how they will build one... They said it is too costly to design right because of the research implkied, too costly to make and too litlle profit... This design complexities is the reason it takes me time to improve them so much that they are my audiophile reference now not my small modified speakers so much i love them ..
By the way if the recording make it possible i hear the soundfield out of my head...Not inside my head...
My best to you my friend ...
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About Bass ... I had 20 hertz bass in my headphone...I hear bass through my body because of skelton resonance ... Unlike any other headphones i listened too... I had clear 50 hertz with my small speakers with no inflow of bass in the mid frequencies... Very good bass ...But no deep bass ... I think the balance between frequencies matter as much than going from 50 hertz to 20 but with no good balance... I live very well with my small speakers... For sure it will be better with a bigger set of speakers or with sub.... But i listen in nearfield and i cannot put bigger speakers on my desk nor wish to accomodate a well coupled sub... I felt no frustration in this situation because the speakers are so well balanced and good on all others acoustics factors... But for sure my AKG K340 beat my speakers at the end... but i dont felt any evident defect when i listened my speakers ( i use them more than the headphone which are reserved for sacred listening ceremonies.) My key word is then more "balance" than "bass" ...
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As usual many half truth by our friend:
This is completely false except for those who had no idea what they acoustically do ...Room acoustics by the way is not only the use of passive materials on a few panels. More active devices can be used as resonators; and yes even materials treatment and especially active treatment with among others devices as Helmholtz resonators can make the acoustic recorded translation of any album bigger and more holographic in your room new fine tuned acoustic space ...
The op is right here then mijostyn too ... 😊
Go only measuring gear with your other gear/tools and room ad infinitum till perfection ...😁 For us any measures set must be coupled to hearing/brain experiment biological controls too , save inner ears measures and HTRF tracking measures the most important one anyway with the room geometry and size and acoustic content ... |
Better components ad infinitum will not beat a dedicated once for all acoustic room... No speakers beat their room said some anonymus acoustician i forgot the name ... It is incredible that so many people vouch for better gear design always, costlier upgrade, never for acoustics understanding and improvement perceived at most as secondary ... Even miraculous Dr Choueiri filters can correct all stereo system which are all of them defective because of crosstalk, unbeknownst to most audiophiles, but even dr. Choueiri need for the best optimized results a dedicated acoustic room and inner ears measures and HRTF tracking ... Psychoacoustics rule audio not mere gear design price... Then asking for changing good speakers for costlier one is preposterous more than half the time and absolutely not comparable to acoustics improvement which can be and must be made ideally for the chosen speakers properties and type ... |