Yesteryears' expensive speakers compared to modern moderately expensive speakers


For the purpose of this discussion, let’s assume that ...
Yesteryears’ -- 10 -15 years old
Expensive speakers -- $25,000+
Moderately expensive speakers -- $8,000 -- 12,000

I often wonder if it’s worth paying 50% of the original retail price for older speakers that were considered state-of-the-art and flagship during their day. So let’s say an expensive Sonus Faber was around $30,000 in 2005. The seller is asking for $10,000 in 2018. Is it worth paying the asking price, or is one better off buying, say an Olympica III, brand new for about $13-14k (maybe less with dealer discounts)?

I feel that due to trickle-down effects and manufacturing advances and efficiencies, the modern speakers are as good, if not better, than speakers that were twice or thrice the price ten to fifteen years ago. Is this a valid assertion? Or do you guys feel that speaker technology really has not advanced to that extent? In other words, is a flagship speaker worth $30k a decade ago still going to outperform a new one at half its price?

The reason I’m asking is that I am going to save some $$$ this year to buy a speaker in the range of $8000-12,000 in about 6 - 7 months. Since it’s a pretty substantial amount (for me), I am planning to do as much research and auditioning in the next few months. So might as well get started now. Given that it is really difficult to audition used speakers -- not that it’s easy to audition new ones, but at least you can if you try, should I just strike used ones (ones that were uber expensive a few years ago but more affordable now) off of my list and just focus on new?

P.S. -- I’m just using Sonus Faber to illustrate my point, otherwise, I’m very open to anything that is in that price range. I am purposely not turning this into a discussion on what I like, room size, music preferences, etc just yet since I want to stay focused on the topic -- yesteryears’ expensive speakers vs not-so-expensive modern ones.

P.S -- I understand that Tekton is going to render all other speakers obsolete in due time, and I respect the opinions of those who agree with the assertions, but please understand that it is not going to be on my list. Period. I will really appreciate if we don’t turn this thread into a Tekton battleground.
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Showing 1 response by almarg

IMO both possibilities should be pursued, within your ca. $8K to $12K price range. I would not rule out 10 to 15 year old speakers on the basis of generalities, such as general notions about the technological advances which may have been made since that time. IMO there are good choices to be had and bad choices to be had in that price range among both currently produced speakers and 10 to 15 year old speakers.

And speaking of technological progress, it’s worth reflecting upon the fact that Western Electric speaker drivers from the 1930s(!) sell today for astronomical sums (and I can think of at least one highly respected member here whose **very** high end system is built around them), while Tannoy speakers from the 1940s, 1950s, and 1960s commonly fall within your stated price range today. The reasons for that are certainly not just related to collectibility. Also, many audiophiles (including a number of members here) consider the Quad ESL57, which dates from around 1957, as never having been bettered in certain respects.

Consider also that a significant contributor to the price escalation that has occurred during the 10 to 15 year period you refer to has undoubtedly been simply the declining size of the market, rather than necessarily reflecting improvements in performance.

IMHO. Good luck, however you decide to proceed.

Regards,
-- Al