Yamamoto YDA 01 DAC


Is there any Agoner have this Yamamoto dac and could share his comments on how its sound?
Thanks
ben

Showing 8 responses by kyrill1

what a nice "metrum" thread
have ordered one as well but helas, only last week ..

Charles1dad what a bummer. what a stupid mistake of the post
My condolences..

Happy indeed you did not sell yr Yamamoto...
Hi Charles

The price of the clock is including its special pws. The improvement will be there as no commercial product under 5000+ € will have a comparable clock. The total price of the clock and pws will be in the league of a mainstream low-mid price high end cable...

The MSB Technology DAC has a new 200 femto clock module... of ehhh 9950 US $. The price is only for the clock option.
http://www.monoandstereo.com/2011/10/msb-femto-second-galaxy-clock.html
http://www.msbtech.com/products/galaxy.php
I did not open yet the Metrum, so I don't know its clock. I CAN predict if it is a clock under or equaling 45MHz (unless much more complicated order processes for custom cristals) it WILL be bettered by a super clock unless the strange über freq Metrum DAC has a very (much higher) clock than the normal range between 6 and 45 MHz.

As for the Yamamoto, I am 99.99% sure it will be considerably bettered by the DEXA Neutron clock with its own dedicated accurate stable pws. The most worst thing that can happen with a better clock is that the improvement in SQ is less than anticipated mostly happening as the sound reaching our ears will always be limited by the weakest link in the stereo chain
Hi Charles

You have a nice transport.But jittery wise transports are actually at their end of life. Even a second hand dual core laptop with Jplay in windows 7 and a JKenny MK3 USB/SPDIF converter will out perform a dedicated mac and your PS audio transport probably by a large margin

So I would upgrade your dac.

My mistake refers to the 200 femto secnds of MSB Technology clock. It should be 97 F seconds according to the article
I find enormous positive effects every time again when replacing the (good) standard clock in a cd player or transport of DAC with a "super clock" The best Quality/price ratio to my findings is The DEXA Neutron Star clock (200 femto seconds) accuracy but also with good phase characteristics and ditto pws. It made my DEQX "sing" and before that my TEAC transport. I have the Metrun Octave which does not ( to my surprise)degrades the DEQX but with super clock installed. I know the Octave is a follow up form the quad/dual Metrum models, which are really cheap ( 300 dollars for the dual which is obsolete by now) The better models since then heave a better pws and more DAC chips in parallel, but I truly expect the same clock. Now I suppose the Dual or the Quad Metrun to have a nice clock but not to be compared to the better (much) more expensive "super clocks" So in a way it MUST be advantageous for owners of both the Yamamoto or the Metrum to replace their default clock? Even the M2Tech HiFace bettered by John Kenny has at its best "nice" metal encapsulated crystals of probably 30-50ps. The Off-Ramp ( I suppose it is a M2Tech design as it needs M2Tech drivers) is intelligently nodded by Steven and he has replaced the clocks for the best he could find. The audiophilleo 1 and 2, the Burson DAcs publish a clock of <10 ps. Which is probably 5 times more accurate than mainstream modern Dacs. Most manufacturer's do not (dare) to publish the specs of their clocks which may run into the hundreds of ps. It is not only the accuracy of clocks which is important but it is an indication (being the most popular property of a clock) of the seriousness of the manufacturer how to handle digital processes. It becomes mainstream knowledge by now that the clock IS the major reason next to power of digital beauty or lack of it. I would not be surprised at all the Yamamoto or Metrum with a super clock to be the last DAC you need sound wise for the coming 10 or 30 years if the 44.1-192khz format does not disappear.
computer-DAC systems do not per se have lower jitter, in the contrary. It is the stand alone USB/Spdif converter who provides low jitter especially the well known brands which are highly probably better than a n y build in USB input of any DAC except 4 until now. Couple that to JPlay which I am 90 % sure you have not heard and only then you supersede a high quality transport. Any transport with a "standard clock is hifi, not really high end. The old but famous TEAC VDRS transport was a very good mechanical transport, but its default clock made it sound... ah well
I had one and bettered it with a Tent clock and ditto pws. But that combo is incomparable to PC music under the right conditions