Dear @blz_tone: If you can put your hands on a good operation condition GT 2000 then you don't need to ask nothing just BUY IT at once!!! One of the best TT ever, period. http://www.thevintageknob.org/yamaha-GT-2000.html Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
Dear @lewm : I think you dit not read yet the whole link I posted to the OP, please read it. There you can find out a precise answer to your question where you can see that in some specs, like w&f, beats not only every single Technics but even the P3 by Pionner. Additional to that it comes with very good tonearm. Here you can see it: http://www.hifido.co.jp/KW/G/P0/A10/E/0-10/S0/C12-64851-46165-00/ Can any one ask for a better TT that this Yamaha?, now just imagine this GT 2000 with today up grades not only at electronic level ( as you mentioned. ) but on: plinth, platform and the like. Years ago, in other thread, I posted that this and the DP-100 by Denon were the TTs TO GO . Anyway, the Yamaha is other example of the greatness of vintage japanese DD TTs. Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
Dear @lewm : You posted and " ask me: """ So, I would ask for some hard facts, like what is the platter mass, what kind of motor does it use and how much torque does it generate when needed? How is the plinth made and with what materials that we might think are good for dampening? """ and what I posted was that everythink is in the link and that you have to read it again and that all the 2000 series comes with coreless kind of motor. Yes, specs maybe don't tell us all but it's important to take in count because ( some way or the other ) is the only objective information we have because we don't have on hand the 2000. My statement is valid for any audio item, I know you don't " care " and fine with me. The @jpjones3318 post is right regarding that in that spec Yamaha did not specify the standar below took that measure. After that post I check in the japanese bible and that 0.005 number is stated as 0.002%! showing no standard about. Anyway, as I posted several years ago the GT 2000 along the top Kenwood, Exclusive P3a, Sp 10mk3, Denon DP 100 and maybe the Sony PS-X9 ( I think ? ) is at the very top DD vintage japanese TTs. The JVC does not belongs to this " particular/special " group or the DP-80/75. Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
Dear @lewm : Look I'm not saying that the DP-80 or the JVC are not good TTs/performers because both are very good but as everything in audio exist different quality performance levels on TTs too. Now, the real subject here is if those differences on quality performance level are " night and day ". All those TT models we are talking here are excelent ( I include here the Denon DP-75 and maybe there are other good ones. ) and maybe when we test it in exactly the same conditions those differences on quality performance be at minimum and this is because the performance of the DP-80/75 or the JVC are really good, is almost at the top of the quality performance ladder but when we are talking of so high quality levels that try to achieve or pass to the next level does not means " huge differences " but minimal and with a very high price for it. specs with this top TTs What really means specs with these top TTs? is it because those specs differences the differences on quality performance? maybe not because I know for sure that I can't detect between w&f differences on specs: 0.015% and 0.01% or between 80 db on s/n against 85 db. or higher. At this quality performance levels those specs means " extreme " quality attention in the design, selected parts and design execution. Example: in all top performers against the other excelent TTs even coming from the same manufacturer the TT platter is different and this sole change make per se differences. For many many years I used only DD units from: Pionner, Denon and Technics. I was unaware of the BD experience but when I started in the " high end " DD units were forbidden on this market niche: no one talked about and the " real " high end must stay with BD TT units and my ignorance level about made that I start to buy BD TT ( big mistake ) but that ignorance from my part made that I been really exited for the " new " experience and looking for that massive BD TTs as Micro Seiki and many other that even today the people with money still are buying non-sense huge massive BD TT with out knowing that that massive designs just goes against quality performance levels: not even a kg. of pure gold is as expensive as 1 kg. of steel on those massive BD TT and I said this because that's exactly what the massive TTs buyers are buying not top quality performance. I still own my Technics and Denons along BD ones. Today I'm not any more at the TT hunting mainly because I'm totally convinced that the cartridge, tonearm and phono stage ( in that order ) are more important and makes the " difference " in the analog experience. I'm not saying that TT is not important because it's but at other level. Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
