Would you still pay $10k or more for a turntable not full analog front end these days ?

No, that’s a ridiculous amount of money for either component. I can be satisfied 100% with much less than that and use the funds for better purposes.

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I think the solution is buy used on both from a reputable dealer

@inna my turntable is 42 years old and was pro-consumer state of the art when I bought it. I have about 10,000 Records I might buy a second turntable but first I’m buying a new tube amplifier and a new phon0 pre but neither of them will cost $10,000. With $10,000 you should buy land cause they don’t make it anymore.