??? Wood Plinths: Layers: 7/2/1 ? Wood Type: Solid or Veneer or Vinyl Wrap wood look ?


I hope we can assemble a thread of answers about the various Wood Plinths we have or definitely know about.

I'm trying to choose a TT for my office: JVC Victor/Denon/Pioneer/Sony/Technics/Marantz .. etc. 

If I go for a Wood Base, it's confusing, both the layered construction of the base, and the actual exterior wood material. Layers: I'm asking about the deck thickness/construction for the spinner (most are thinner at arm location).

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JVC Victor Wood Plinths with CL-P_ (CL-P1, 2, 3, 10)

I believe are all Premium 70mm thick 7 layer composite construction with real wood veneer. Mostly these are separate plinths, you add a spinner and a tonearm (or 2: CL-P2 or even 3: CL-P3). What's the difference between CL-P1 and CL-P10???

JVC Turntables (factory assembled and sold as a unit): Some have removable arm boards, some don't, some have multi-layer, others 2 layers, or only 1 layer?

Denon Plinths?

Denon Turntables?

the other brands are primarily factory assembled turntables, who knows about the deck thickness/material?

Please post what you know about your specific models, current or past, or you just know, I think we all would benefit from a lot of answers, I certainly will.

GLUE:  IF Treated Well: some brands/models veneer/wrap glue holds up, others not so well, some veneer/wraps are thick, some thin, hold up, or don't. Knowledge, comments, known problematic models/

A free for all will result I hope

regards, Elliott

elliottbnewcombjr

Showing 12 responses by billwojo

I'm watching this. I'd love to find a JVC plinth from Japan or Europe that has the armboard. I have a QL-A7 with the black glossy plinth.I have several arms to try out.

BillWojo
I just contacted the seller in Canada about the TT61 with the CL-P2 plinth. I assume that the plinth will work with my TT71 motor unit.
I have both a Audio Technica ATP-12T and a Micro Seiki MA-202L tonearm, both 10" units to play with. My usual cart is the Denon DL-103. Should work very nice.Thank you for the link, fingers crossed.
BillWojo
Well I talked to him and purchased it for $382.00 USD shipped minus the tonearm. I can't find anything about the TT61 motor assembly. I figure it's a much cheaper version of the TT71 that I have. Big negative is it comes with no cover. Hopefully I can sell the motor for enough to get a cover if I can find one.

BillWojo
Thanks Elliott, I just sent him a message and even included your message from him. I doubt it will do any good at this point as he should have my payment by now. To be fair, the add didn't mention a dust cover, I assume he pulled that out of the add before I even saw it.
Do you know anything about the TT61? I can find no information about that model of motor drive. Vlad said that my TT71 and up will fit right in.
Thank youBill
Hi Elliot, I heard back from him this morning and the cover is not included. Oh well, I'll deal with that later but it's not going to be easy to find one, that's for sure.I found a pic of the TT 61 with the cover off and board exposed. I don't see a quartz crystal so I suspect the main difference is that this is not quartz locked.
It still looks like it has the substantial motor of the TT 71 and TT 81 and I suspect a frequency generator as well so the performance should not be far off at all.
I posted pics over on AK, look under TT, JVC QL-?? owners thread, page 9. Lots of good info on the JVC QL series tables. I started that post to consolidate info on this series.
I still need to find a DIN cable to plug into the bottom of my Audio Technica ATP-12T tonearm. That will be first up.
BillWojo
Hi Elliot, I asked him for a price on the dust cover and he came back with $150.00 shipped. I assume that is Canadian dollars. I'll hit him up with a counter offer.
Lets see what happens.
Billwojo
He won't budge from $150.00 and wants to be payed Paypal friends and family so the buyer has no recourse if it's damaged in shipping.
Not to happy with that.

BillWojo
I'm curious why you think the Denon plinth is better. I've not seen anything about the Denon plinth so I can't really compare. I know the Victor plinth is a 7 layer sandwich of wood and some sort of material in between. 70mm thick and very heavy, covered with a nice veneer.  It's hollowed out for the motor and arm boards, the rest is solid.Not trying to start an argument, trying to learn the differences.Thank you
BillWojo
williewonka, I agree with the high mass approach and layered plinth construction. I should have my Victor CL-P2D plinth and TT 61 motor on Monday according to UPS tracking. I did buy the dustcover, probably have that by the end of next week as well.
I want to publicly thank Elliot as well for bringing that TT to my attention. I tend to forget about the Canadian market and there are deals to be had with the dollar being so strong.

So lets get back to the original post and talk about factory issued wood plinths and their construction.
I can offer that the plinth of my Victor CL-P2D is 7 layers, top, bottom and middle two layers are wood composite and the other 3 layers are a inorganic material. It's a layered construction alternating between the two types of material, each layer about 10mm thick. I have read reports that the arm boards are layered as well.
The plinth is quite heavy and very "dead" by all accounts.

BillWojo


Well my Victor CL-P2D plinth, dust cover and TT 61 motor drive came in today. Not only is it big it's very heavy as well.
The plinth is in very nice shape, a real beauty. My armboards are a bit different than most I see. They are perfectly rectangular. This will make it easy to make extras.First order of business is to mount my Audio Technica ATP-12T tonearm in the rear position. I need to find a chunk of 3/4" aluminum, I'm going to make a new armboard for that position. There is already a hole about 1" away from where the new hole needs to be. I'll save that for future use. The armboard on the right side has never been drilled. If I find a Victor UA-7082 tonearm, it will go in that position.
BillWojo

Why the heck do you want a cover in the first place?

Why do most TT have covers or rather "Dust Covers"? Do I really need to answer that question?
BTW, the dust covers on this size plinth don't hinge, they are to big and heavy. You just pick it up and set it aside when you want to use the TT.
The dust cover that comes with this table is thick PlexiGlas and crystal clear. As someone who spent a few years working in a plastics fabrication shop I can testify to it's very high quality.
I'm really impressed with the quality of this Victor table, it far exceeded my expectations. I'm sure Elliott would tell you the same.
BillWojo