Wilson Sabrina X ... oh my God! and Jadis... or?


Well, I’ve been a sucker for high efficiency and low powered tube amps, but the other day was visiting a good store and they had several Wilson speakers; the man offered me to sit and relax enjoying the Sabrina X, with a Jadis DA-50s and... BIG MISTAKE! Cannot stop thinking in such beautiful, full, complete, non fatiguing sound, I had 2 hours of pure enjoyment, seriously Didn’t want to leave room.

So here I am sending all my stuff and getting what I really think is the final game? At the end, I’ve never listened to such expensive and fantastic speakers. Fed by the aforementioned Jadis, a Prima Luna DAC and a Innuos Zenith, a shame I couldn’t play some records, but He said He was even better with vinyl reproduction.

I started with Isaac Hayes - Close to You from Black Moses... the voice was spread everywhere the room and just came from the amp, which was in the middle of the rack, just amazing, also played some flamenco, funk, classical, Jazz, Blues, Bossanova, Samba, everything was just spot on and sounded far beyond the speakers, without losing presence in front of me, hard to explain.

Now that I’m in, and pulled the trigger for an Ivory ones, need a proper amp for a few months till my wallet recover or sell the stuff I have.

I have a Goldmund Telos 7, which is beautiful Swiss made small amp, 175wpc Class AB with a fantastic DAC inside. But wondering if going Tube path is the right thing, cause I heard such airiness, full bodied, non fatiguing and relaxed sound with Jadis that was awesome!

Thought about these ones:

-Jadis DA-50S
-Mastersound Duetrenta
-Audio Research GSI75 (someone sells to me at good price)
-VAC Sigma iq170
-EAR Yoshino 834
-Lyric Ti200
-Octave V70 Class A
-Any of RAVEN tube amps?

Solid State: (Thinking from the "most analog sound"):
-Pass Labs INT-60
-Mark Levinson 5805 
-Krell k-300i
-Boulder 866
-Coda (dunno much)
-ModWright (dunno much)
-Moon (dunno much)
-Kinki EX-M1PLUS

Not sure going Class D, although reading lately a lot about GanFet Class D amps like AGD, Java, Gato, Aavik...

I’m going integrated for now and for a few years, if it got a DAC or Phono inside, better, but can live without them inside.

What I don’t want to lose is that 3D, great body sound that valves used to give me, more into musical pure joy than High End nowadays.

Btw, speakers cables were Nordost and Crystal Cable, being the later one maybe more open and higher volume but maybe less controlled if I remember well.

Much appreciated, these Wilson left me in shock.

superelmar

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Thanks for your advice!

Well, volume pot didn’t pass 11 o clock, and filled the room, I was also shocked, but You know, Class A and Huge transformers...

I can sell my Goldmund Telos 7 for good money and invest in other, I think even tho is natural sounding, is not tubes.

Room was 28sqm or so, maybe 30, like mine.

I was really surprised by the Jadis DA-50S, always was against push pull, but know what? Sounded wonderful and had control over the SabrinaX, will try my Goldmund, but I suspect I won’t leave tubes. ARC didn’t sound too tubey and for that better stay with a nice SS.

I say this because I really like the GSi75 (specs wise), and nice DAC and phono stage inside, what I’m sacred is it sound solid state.

Thank U all, I suspect the same.

Maybe if I like the Telos 7, can replace it for the 590 II NextGen or GSI75, also Lyric Ti200 more or less same level than SabrinaX.

I’m afraid if I’m missing something going Solid State, all those ethereal sound, 3D, that kind of… You can touch music.

@mbmi tha ja for advice.

@daveyf many thanks, That’s why I wonder also Mastersound Duetrenta, but is PSE not push pull, maybe lacks dynamics. 

@quattr0  looking at it now!

@bdp24 pretty interesting, gonna have a look, thanks so much!

Would You take GSi75 over Jadis or BAT for a few bucks more?

Ok, dealer just tell me: GSi75 not enough power, like if I want ARC going separates, what I suspect, and he also likes much more Jadis with its power Push Pull Class A. Basically I will do either Jadis, Mastersound or Goldmund Telos for a year until I recover, guess is a good match in the meantime I look for an endgame amplifier. BTW, the the Mimas is winning my heart? Looks absolutely stunning.

Conrad was also another pretty good brand that intrigued me, at the end just order the MIMAS, with DAC and Phono, let’s see how good it is, reviewer used it with Wilson as far as I’ve read!!!

Yeah when I listened no more than 11 o clock, Jadis was superb! But I really like hybrid design, (having a Holborne Passion and Acoustic Plan Mantra), and they deliver plenty of great sound. Also having a DAC and good phono stage makes life easier (wife is not happy seeing more than 2-3 boxes).

Does the Mimas gives nice “bloom and body” to mids, or is in the cold side?

@verdataudio thanks so much for your help. 

Will start with my Duetrenta in Pentode mode, then will try to test the AGD which really appeals to me. Tempo di Gan, good choice?

I’d love to get top notch AGD or Java, or Aavik, etc but most of the cash went for SabrinaX, and now need at least to wait at least one year for a nice amplifier, these ones been offered, second hand or ex-demo, ideally with a good phono or dac inside, or both!

Audio Research GSi75 6.500€
Audio Research I/50 3.000€ with phono stage
Pass Labs INT-25 6.500€
Jadis DA-50S 4.000€
Aesthetix Mimas 4.600€
VTL INT-85 3.500€
Mastersound Duetrenta 2.500€

Regarding the i/50, I got it paired with Zu’s Omen I wasn’t impressed, better than the Pass Labs INT-25 (what a disappointment), but a toy compared with the Mastersound Dueventi which is Pure Class A either SET (10wpc) or SEP (20wpc), what bothered me that having 50wpc and with all the bells and whistles , it sounded less powerful than the Mastersound. On the other hand, at dealers with demanding TAD ME1 sounded so nice…that’s why not sure about GSi75, at the end dealers told me that if ARC, much better separates, even the Jadis according to him, sounded nicer and powerful than either i/50 and GSi75, but damn it, would love an American amp, after tried many stuff, I really miss always American Bold big sound, but those Wilson Oh my God, not a single frequency was out, all super balanced and coherent filling the room.