Wilson's Chronosonic XVX loudspeaker over 3/4 of a million US dollars


Wonder what the impedance/-phase angle graph will look like on these puppies, looking at the amount of D'Agostino amps used to drive them, I'd say could be pretty evil.

https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p720x720/74336509_2441444039447768_5578766920951267328...

Cheers George
 
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When solid state-generated watts became cheap, speaker designers started to care less and less about the impedance of the models they were creating.
Even Klipsch $20Kusd P-39f flagships at 75kg each, get harder to drive the further up the flagship ladder they go. Min 3ohms and 50'-phase angle right where the power is needed to keep the bass tight and dynamic.
https://www.stereophile.com/images/archivesart/609Klipfig1.jpg

Stereophile
" A nasty combination of 4 ohms magnitude and –50° electrical phase angle at 80Hz. The three woofers do demand a significant amount of current to keep up with the horn-loaded midrange and treble drive-units." 
 So to those that bag out Wilson, bag out Klipsch too for purposely making their upper range speaker too hard to drive with average amps.
https://www.klipsch.com.au/products/palladium-floorstanding-speakers


I asked you that above because, I call BS on it, and you came back with this rubbish


And you can’t even get that right, give up.

What one of what you are referring to is "phase shift" in the mid highs of Class-D’s and caused by the filtering of it's output filter.

And the other for speakers is the capacitive "negative phase angle" (EPDR) loading , not even related to each other.
Go away please, you have lost all cred.

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erik_squires I took apart one speaker and saw circuits there deliberately designed to reduce the impedance. It made the speaker "discerning" of amplifiers.
So it wasn’t a Conjugate impedance compensation load that you saw, that makes an amp sees a constant impedance load across it’s working range??? Your saying it was deliberately done to be detrimental to weaker amplifiers that maybe demo’d with them. Please say who these terrible cads were that did this kind of thing???? And if it was Wilson or not?

twoleftears
When solid state-generated watts became cheap, speaker designers started to care less and less about the impedance of the models they were creating
Really!! you and whoever else is living in a dream world, if you think this is Wilson Audio design criteria

Are you guys listening to yourselves
I’ve heard many of their top range, that are a b*****s to drive and I can confidently say these will give better bass because of it and their deign principles than anything that’s 8ohm and 100db efficient and called Klipsch or similar.

Cheers George
Mistake, these are only $330,000 usd the WAMM Master Chronosonic are 3/4 of a million.
https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/wilson-audio-wamm-master-chronosonic-desert-silver-finish-cg-picture...
Also need D’Agostino’s amps to drive them, those green things look like 8ohm loading big power wire-wound test resistors.
https://ibb.co/GVHFM57

Cheers George