WILL THE NEW 60,000 AVALON ISIS BE THE BEST YET?


Hi,I have had the new Avalon Isis for about a week now and put about 125 hours on them and I believe this is Avalon finest moment to date.The speaker is big but not a huge footprint 60x14x17 and it is actually more transparent and detailed than the diamond and it has the slam and bass that has never been heard thru a avalon speaker,and to top it off it is 90 db efficient.Mine is still breaking in but I believe you will hear a lot about this speaker before to long.
strapper211

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Sirspeedy,
Well marketing companies would love you.
Imagine what the retail margin must be on these if their retail price is $60000 and somebody is selling them for $42000 and obviously still making a healthy profit.Of course dealers are going to want to sell speakers like this!These sorts of margins are a disgrace for manufactured products.Would you buy a car from a dealer or manufacturer with this sort of pricing policy[well you probably would actually]
I remember when Duntech were the latest hyped up speaker[They sounded perfect according to "experts"]Their top models were also absurdly expensive.And what are they worth now?And how do they sound now?And how foolish do the people who paid these prices feel now?
There are a lot of people who still think that Bose speakers are the best sounding things on earth.And why?-Very clever marketing.
A lot of people who buy these things are wealthy and nobody really cares how they spend their money.But Hi Fi can also be an addiction and people who can't really afford to be ripped off often are.It is for these people that us HiFi skeptics speak up.

JT
My post was not made to diminish any particular persons enjoyment of a recently selected item.It was just a caution to prospective buyers not to be "sheep" when it comes to such a purchase and to consider the alternatives.It was intended to be taken in a general way not specific to this person or product.
My apologies if I have stepped on any toes.

JT
My perspective is one of a hobbyist speaker builder.
Over the last 25 years I have owned and built all sorts of speakers.
Before people spend $60000 on a pair of speakers they do need consider value for money.
All speakers are flawed.Once you reach a certain point they just start sounding different,not necessarily better.They all have their colourations and I am yet to hear one that comes close to the real thing.The Accuton mid/bass drivers as used by Avalon and others are good,but they also have a definite clanging crockery type tonal signature.Personaly I don't like them because they remind me too much of a noisy restaurant.I prefer the tonal signature of light paper cones which to me sounds more organic.
If you like the Accuton sound I'm sure you can put together a very similar sounding speaker using the same drivers,a digital equaliser/crossover like a DBX driverack and have boxs custom made in a finish of your choice.Or you can buy Accuton based kits from the likes of W.A.R..And by doing so you can save a small fortune that would be better spent on something like acoustic room treatments,or even building a dedicated listening room,which in ten years time will be worth a lot more than a pair of Avalon Isis speakers!
So what is the component cost of these speakers?More Accuton drivers thrown in a box with about 500% mark up!
This sort of stuff should not be encouraged.

JT
Sorry guys but paying anything like this much for dynamic speakers seems crazy to me.
These speakers are inherently flawed devices in that they only radiate sound forwards.Go and listen to an acoustic band.Things like violins and guitars radiate sound in all directions.
For even half this sort of money you can buy some mighty fine electrostats or planar speakers that at least come much closer to the real thing.And they are better value because they contain electrical components and have a high labour content[stats]

JT