Why will no other turntable beat the EMT 927?


Having owned many good turntables in my audiophile life I am still wondering why not one of the modern designs of the last 20 years is able to beat the sound qualities of an EMT 927.
New designs may offer some advantages like multiple armboards, more than one motor or additional vibration measurements etc. but regarding the sound quality the EMT is unbeatable!
What is the real reason behind this as the machine is nearly 60 years old, including the pre-versions like the R-80?
thuchan

Showing 7 responses by bydlo

1. How does the 927 compared to 930 which is also an Idler drive ? Or for that matter how is the 950 in comparison ? Is there big gap between 927 and all other EMTs ?


Pani, owing a 930, I've been asking myself the same question.
Here is +/- only concrete info I could get on the subject:

http://www.lencoheaven.net/forum/index.php?topic=11338.msg175215#msg175215
are you familiar with the Jean Nantais Lenco L75 - EMT927

Haha! The guy sounds like a typical megalomaniac. He claims his Lencos outerformed this ot that TT without any concrete evidence: in what areas and how exactly outperformed, what was the rest of the system, what was the material played, how many listeners and with what background, etc etc. Without such a precise data, inevitable if one challenges a reference, this is just a pure megalomany
TTweights, technology itself, hoewever advanced, does not gurantee anything. The unfortunate marketing figures of merit "W&W below 0.0000000x%", "axis polished to xx um", etc are useless in on their own. We've learne that lesson with THD in amps. Sonic resluts are important, not technologies.
TTweights, technology itself, hoewever advanced, does not gurantee anything. The unfortunate marketing figures of merit "W&W below 0.0000000x%", "axis polished to xx um", etc are useless in on their own. We've learne that lesson with THD in amps. Sonic resluts are important, not technologies.
TTweights, technology itself, hoewever advanced, does not gurantee anything. The unfortunate marketing figures of merit "W&W below 0.0000000x%", "axis polished to xx um", etc are useless in on their own. We've learne that lesson with THD in amps. Sonic resluts are important, not technologies.
Dear administrators, my original post has been posted 3 times instead of intended one.
Could you please fix it?

Thank you
Raul, I think just one plain number as W&F tells you as much
about a TT as a shoe size about a girl. Sticking to it has as much sense as sticking to THD with amps. Have you ever heard a good sounding amp with 0.000000001% THD?
Just like THD is a very-very coarse grained estimation of amps' linearity and a full distortion spectrum is more informative, W&F is a very-very corse grained estimation of TT's speed stability. There is much more to that. For those who are interested in more detailed analysis and speed instability spectra here is the source:

http://www.pinkfishmedia.net/forum/showthread.php?t=70027&highlight=turntable+speed+analysis

http://www.pinkfishmedia.net/forum/showthread.php?t=128190&highlight=turntable+speed+analysis

Cheers,
b