Why should audiophile deniers be allowed on an audiophile forum?


Why should we be subjected to audiophile deniers, on a site dedicated to audio?
It’s antithetical to the hobby and adds nothing to the pursuit. I want to quote something from another thread.

@djones51 wrote "exposing bull products like "audiophile switches, cables, fuses " and other highly questionable devices that serve no purpose"

What then, is the purpose of people with this agenda being on this site? To “expose bull products.” It’s fine for someone to post they tried a product and it didn’t work for them, but to dismiss entire product categories is not a discussion that belongs on an enthusiast forum.

Would a car enthusiast site stand for this type of post?

Try going on a Porsche forum, just for example, and posting that your Mustang is just as fast 0-60 and that others poster’s claims about their driving experience is “dubious.” See how long that will be tolerated

There are plenty of sites to poke fun at audiophile’s obsession with cables, power conditioners etc. Why does it belong here, especially when we can’t mute specific posters?

What’s next? Arguing that speakers that measure the same must sound the same and that we are all suckers for buying expensive speakers? I thought we got rid of trolling?

Isn’t it obvious with all the ASR related posts here lately we are being trolled?

A couple of months back I read a post here about someone that ordered a new cat8 cable from China. I tried it and posted back my fantastic results for others to benefit.

Personally that’s the kind of forum I’m interested in, not to come here to be challenged about what I hear and that since it can’t be measured so it must be “dubious.”

 

 

 

 

 

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People seem to misunderstand the idea of a "Free Country"

It’s not acceptable for a stranger to enter your house take the food from your fridge, light a fire on your table cook and eat your food, take a dump on your sofa and leave... Freedom means they are free to do that in their own house.

In the same way, if you build a community of like minded people to discuss the merits and the shortcomings of equipment relating to a common interest, you are not respecting someones freedom by allowing them to enter the group for no other reason than to cause disruption and annoyance to genuine members. There is no obligation to open your doors to anyone you do not wish to invite in. Their freedom is that they are free to go and start their own community and discuss the failure of equipment they have never heard or owned.

You are not required to read every post and you are not required to believe very post that you do read.  If X posts that a particular network switch (just to pick a particular example) made an enormous difference in his system and Y posts that the same network switch made no difference in her system, you are not required to read or believe either post.  Alternatively, you could read both posts and use them to inform yourself as to whether you want to try that switch for yourself.  If the network switch costs $1000 and you cannot try it for free, you might be very glad to have read the experiences of two users.  

Becaurse we need each other. Differentieret opinion from differentieret views. Make the best of it and take from the discussion what you think make sense for you. 

Else we All get a one track mind and we do not evolve. Have a open mind, it is not just about being right All the time. 

I use to be right All the time...😉 But only from my perspective. Now i am far from right All the time but getting wiser and more happy.

It is not my job to convince another why he or she is wrong, i can just tell the person why i have my opinion, seen form my perspective.

 (sorry for my poor English)

Regards 

 

 

The good question is how many true and sincere "audiophile deniers" became "audiophile believers".

Sharing experiences and knowledge are free gifts, give credit to participants and when practicing justify the magic of perception.
It does not matter how expensive or how humble a system is, both are not recipies for good sound anyway, but even the slightest of experimentation is the key for making it sound better. Respect people who spend time in searching and share their findings.
The only bias should be applied only on amplifiers not on open discussions.
But action equals reaction and in free speach.

It is funny but another thread was raised concerning the validity of after market power supplies and power cables.
Poppies.