Why should audiophile deniers be allowed on an audiophile forum?


Why should we be subjected to audiophile deniers, on a site dedicated to audio?
It’s antithetical to the hobby and adds nothing to the pursuit. I want to quote something from another thread.

@djones51 wrote "exposing bull products like "audiophile switches, cables, fuses " and other highly questionable devices that serve no purpose"

What then, is the purpose of people with this agenda being on this site? To “expose bull products.” It’s fine for someone to post they tried a product and it didn’t work for them, but to dismiss entire product categories is not a discussion that belongs on an enthusiast forum.

Would a car enthusiast site stand for this type of post?

Try going on a Porsche forum, just for example, and posting that your Mustang is just as fast 0-60 and that others poster’s claims about their driving experience is “dubious.” See how long that will be tolerated

There are plenty of sites to poke fun at audiophile’s obsession with cables, power conditioners etc. Why does it belong here, especially when we can’t mute specific posters?

What’s next? Arguing that speakers that measure the same must sound the same and that we are all suckers for buying expensive speakers? I thought we got rid of trolling?

Isn’t it obvious with all the ASR related posts here lately we are being trolled?

A couple of months back I read a post here about someone that ordered a new cat8 cable from China. I tried it and posted back my fantastic results for others to benefit.

Personally that’s the kind of forum I’m interested in, not to come here to be challenged about what I hear and that since it can’t be measured so it must be “dubious.”

 

 

 

 

 

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It may be an ultimately trivial thing, but the kind of thinking that becomes accepted in such corners, any corner of the world, the kind of thinking where it’s accepted to simply silence people for bad thoughts, is a bad omen for the future.

I could provide a litany of thoughts that are not only ignorant, stupid and flat-out wrong, but also dangerous and harmful.  It would please me to no end if such thinking magically disappeared forever.

Of course, no matter how much I wish for bad ideas to go away, they will not.  They’ve been around since the beginning of man and will persist until the end of time.

It’s simply a far worse play in the long-term to start censoring people than to use your voice to bring logic and truth into the fray.
If people get what they wish for, they will be sorry when they can no longer express their opinions because a censorious society has become the norm.

@nonoise 

These days, both sides of the aisle are advocating censorship.  It’s one thing to get it from one side, but now we’re getting from both sides.  This is a disturbing trend, to say the least.

I consider it quite fair that someone, in light of these trends, would be alarmed to see people willingly and eagerly advocating censorship, regardless of the venue and their policies.

It’s one thing for the managers of a venue to implement restrictions on their patrons’ behavior, but it’s another thing to see the venue’s patrons REQUESTING a loss of freedom.  It seems self-defeating, masochistic…I dunno…stupid?  “I couldn’t help but notice there’s not enough censorship here, Mr. Director, may we please have some more?”

I will challenge this kind of thinking regardless of the venue, because I think it is bad and indicative of an accepted mode of thinking in our population that is more than complicit in the erosion of our freedoms.

I’m pleased to see so many people advocating free speech.

I’m so sick and tired of both sides of the aisle trying to destroy this crucial tenet of a free society.  Everybody’s in favor of free speech until that speech runs contrary to their personal beliefs.  It doesn’t work that way.

It’s the seemingly innocuous apologia that starts with, “free speech is applicable to blank for blah-blah-blah-reason, but in this instance we should blah-blah-blah…” that creates the type of permissiveness that leads to the absence of free speech on a much broader and more destructive level.  Obviously, at that time it’s already too late.

Again, I’m pleased to see people here who understand that and advocate free speech.

It’s depressing to watch so many people dig their own grave.

If I advocate censorship, and contribute to a precedent being set that silences those who opinions I dislike, that precedent can be used to censor me.  I’m contributing to my own loss of freedoms by advocating censorship.  I’m digging my own grave.  I will be crying when I am disallowed my right to voice my opinion.

This ain’t rocket science.

It kills me watching so many people, from both sides of the aisle, eagerly advocating the erosion of our democracy.