Not sure that some truly understand the palcebo effect.
The placebo effect can cause real actual measurable change or alterations in the human body. immune response, Herxheimer response, inflammation response, chemical balance response, and more.
So it is impossible to do medical studies and just say ’placebo’. It is far far too complex for that simplicity to exist as most people think it does.
It also means it is not proper or even remotely real to name drop ’palcebo’ into an audio discussion... and consider the case solved in one’s favor...... so that it can be ’justifiably’ used as an axe to attack the understandings and opinions of others. With full clouds of feverish spinning righteousness attached.
To the informed, which sadly, number a frightening few....it shows a notable amount of ignorance of the subject at hand.
Human hearing, for example, is a half in half out consciousness and unconscious affair... that is a variable and hand built..and alterable, shiftable, tunable, in that half-in half-out kind of way.
Which the complexities of placebo, which is directly indicated but misapplied... play in that field and area.
And that's just a minimal (very incomplete) descriptor of the one component of a very complex scenario.