Wow! What! Is there such a thing as an Appeal to Honesty? Or maybe Appeal to Having very Good Beliefs, but not Weird Beliefs? How about Appeal to I’m just a Good Guy who’s Trying to Help People Out? Or maybe this is just another case of nobody else understands.
Why no “Break in” period?
If people say there’s a break in period for everything from Amps to cartridges to cables to basically everything... why is it with new power conditioners that people say they immediately notice “the floor drop away” etc. Why no break in on that?
I’m not trying to be snarky - I’m genuinely asking.
I’m not trying to be snarky - I’m genuinely asking.
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djones51 Not sure about power conditioners but when I purchased speakers from a company that does online sales when I asked about break in the president of the company told me the only break in would be me getting used to the speakers. I should give it a month or two before I made a final decision. >>>>“I’m not only the President of Hair Club I’m also a customer.” 🤗 |
prof Geoff, In your rush to judge you have, as usual, misunderstood the point. If you ever slow down to read before firing off a rant, it would have been blazingly obvious I wasn’t taking about what conclusions I would actually draw in the scenario I outlined, but rather probing rodman with questions about what conclusions HE would think to be reasonable. >>>>Yes, I know, that’s why I said you or anyone else can’t draw conclusions based on one test. In other words, nobody can. Your argument was a Strawman. The conclusions of two people that have different results based on one test can BOTH be thrown away. For example, one of you might have a cold. 🤧 |
mijostyn geoffkait, what in god’s name are you talking about? A single experiment can be perfectly valid if done correctly. "Sorry pal" is offensive. Do you really need to be as immature as rodman? All you have to say is that you have faith (The Cure) that "break in" exists for electronics and no mater what you tell me I am going to believe in that. I can live with that and I know for a fact prof can also. Then we can just discount everything else you have to say as a religious moment and be done with it. >>>>>What a pretty thought - that you know all the variables involved and how to control them. Good luck with that! Oh, you mean some anonymous person out there knows all the variables and how to control them? Good luck with that too! “It’s what I choose to believe.” Dr. Elizabeth Shaw, Prometheus |
prof “Or would you grant that I would be justified in my conclusion, from my own perception that "there was no audible alteration to the sonic signal?"” >>>>Sorry, pal. You actually wouldn’t be justified in drawing ANY conclusion from a single test. Especially since you haven’t even done the test. You’re supposed to do the test BEFORE you draw any conclusions. Hel-loo! A single test, no matter how well performed or thorough, has no meaning, especially if the results are negative. For one thing that’s to prevent overly enthusiastic pseudo scientists from claiming victory in some argument. But mainly it’s because it’s too difficult to control all the variables and too many things can go wrong. Furthermore, you haven’t even done the test and you’re already declaring victory. That’s gold, Jerry, gold! |
Cargo cult “In the South Seas there is a cargo cult of people. During the war they saw airplanes land with lots of good materials, and they want the same thing to happen now. So they've arranged to imitate things like runways, to put fires along the sides of the runways, to make a wooden hut for a man to sit in, with two wooden pieces on his head like headphones and bars of bamboo sticking out like antennas—he's the controller—and they wait for the airplanes to land. They're doing everything right. The form is perfect. It looks exactly the way it looked before. But it doesn't work. No airplanes land. So I call these things cargo cult science, because they follow all the apparent precepts and forms of scientific investigation, but they're missing something essential, because the planes don't land.[1]” - Richard Feynman |
@prof Yes, it’s true, I liked it but not for the reasons you were hoping for. I liked it for its pomposity and irony. 😛 I just calculated you’re in a dead heat, so to speak, with atdavid for the most posts exhibiting high degrees 🔝 of pomposity and irony. I’ve been using your posts and others as a journal, but also as a joke diary if I have any thoughts or frustrations. think I told you, I’m pursuing a career in standup comedy. You know, for when the whack a mole game on audio forums dries up. 🤡 |
Actually it’s very difficult, for speakers, to separate out the effects of diaphragm break-in and the effects of break-in of internal wire, speaker cable, internal crossover parts like inductors and capacitors. You know what they say when you ASSUME something. It makes a fool out of me and Uma Thurman. |