Why lots of B&W Nautilus for sale used?

The Antillion Signature pictures will be posted on the web site in a couple of weeks or you can e-mail me directly.

You can do alot better then B&W speakers for the same amount of money.I think mabe these people have found that out for themselves.Now I know that it is all relitive,if you have some one who has been living with Definitive Technology,Bose,Paradigm,Polk or speakers of that sort,when they hear B&W for the first time hell they probably thought they heard god.I have been an Aerial dealer now since 93 and I have never in that time lost a sell to B&W.I have taken my speakers to their house or they brought them to me.I have even had people take them from the local dealer and bring them over before they bought.I have always offered to bring my speakers to anywhere locally for comparison but as far as stores are concern there were never any takers.In fact most of the salesmen at the local B&W store own speakers that I sell which pist the owner off so much that he band any employees from entering my store again and that I was the enemy.In fact one went so far as to say that now he feels like he has been lying to people all these years.

A94510 I am sorry,It's just that I listen to gear that is far and away more musical and resolving than the gear you have mentioned.Gryphon Antillion amp,Gryphon Sonata preamp,Gryphon CDP-1 cd player,Basis Gold Debut ect....The gear you hve mentioned was like a steping stone for me years ago and now I am spoiled and arogant...Sorry.

Where did you hear this gear?,at a show?,because if you did then I agree with you completely.Gryphon gear a shows have always been brand new.The preamp takes about a month and the amp takes about 3 months.That is why I give every sell 6 months trial to asure complete break-in.When the first Gryphon Antillion came in I thought,oh my god I bought a Krell,I was very disaponted,my customers at the time were asking how it sounds and all I could say was so far I have the best sounding Krell on the planet.When month 3 came around it became the most INCREDIBLE amp I have heard to date!!I had to take a lot of gear on trade in.That is why now I do not except Krell or Levinson on trade-in.My customers will not except it so it just sits there like a boat ancor untill I take it in the shorts by offing it to some used hige-end store.I am sorry A94510 but it is way beyond your gear and can easly be proven with your own ears. I am saying all this from the heart.I am not some white shoes audio salesman.Ask George Cardas,Paul Hales,Mike Kelly to name a few.

A94510 your living in the past,the very first amp Gryphon made back in the mid 80's had a problem with getting too hot and creating cold solders due I believe to the fact that we are double the current over here.Since the arival of the Antillion back in the mid 90's there have been no problems that i am aware of,And since i was the only dealer in the U.S. from 96 to the year 2000 i think i should have heard something?..no?Check out The best system ever built threads going on next door.It is good to here that Dan is comming out with better sounds these days.I went to his room a Treasure Island at CES and told him personaly that i was looking for a ss line that would fill the gap between Gryphon and McCormack(He liked that). I told him to come on over by the store and give his amps a shot.Do you know what he brought...I will give you a hint...It sure as hell wasn't an amp....because he is no fool...he brought the only thing Gryphon didn't make..a cd player..I didn't even think of that,THAT'S PRETTY CLEVER of him,don't ya think.I must confess that many many years ago i thought Krell was it.

I can only help those who seek it.I am glad your happy with your gear,like i said before you can achieve good sound with the gear you own.Just for me, they were only the path, to the promised land.

I have NEVER lost asell to either ,how on earth could i posibly be angry.Every time someone comes over and gets blown away i also fell their joy.It's just that their are some brands that will NEVER get to this level.I am sorry if you are angry that you bought some and didn't know better.You see i too am a consumer that can not aford to make mistakes on my perchases.No one in their right mined would pick any of the brands you chose for BEST SYSTEMS IN THE WORLD.Your brands are just beneth me,and i am sorry if that does not sit well with you.Yes Johnny their are people out their with better gear then you.Wavestream is the best tube gear and the best speakers out their today are the Martin Logan Statements.Two products that i do not carry!!I guess that shoots the hell out of your thoughts of JUST ANOTHER DEALER WHO LIKES ONLY WHAT HE CARRIES...no?I believe it is you that is angry;get burned by a dealer or two,it wouldn't surprise me.That is why i started in this biz,i saw too many people getting burned.I give a minimum of a 1 year all your money back program if your not happy,any other store you know of that stands behind what they sell like that..Not!Ask ANYBODY in the industry who has heard Gryphon and Krell side be side (other then those two).I personaly do not think you will find one person out their that would come out and say Krell is better(when i say the industry i mean manufactures not dealers).Try asking the ones that do not make electronics at all,speakers,wires ect.In fact try B&W and NBS.That's all i am going to say on this matter

I will never accept krell on trade-in sorry.

I don't know why you think i am out here trying to drum up biz;I was trying to reply to a question from another guy who is probably trying not to make the same mistakes you did.I thing you might have a problem with people knowing exactly were your equipment stands in the real world.There are other products out there that are alot better than Krell.Rowland is a fine example sold it for two years,I thing I would even put Levenson befor Krell although I am not a Levenson fan.Spectral is another,Ayre is yet another,Symphonic Line is another,Simaudio is another,Sutherland is yet anouther,all of these solid state amps I would put above Krell.Dose this bother you that somebody thinks this way.

You should keep the Aiwa for yourself,it might have a better resale value than your Krap.Woops I mean Krell.