I don’t know how I missed this fascinating thread when it first developed. I am posting this note sitting beside my 12/14/18 Ludwig Classic Maple kit. I went to Berkley in my youth, was in the US Navy Band organization early in my life, played in the 16th District Naval Dance Band out of Great Lakes, IL in 1968/69. Growing up in the Boston area, I studied with the very renowned George Lawrence Stone, who also taught the vastly more talented Joe Morello and Vic Firth. Joe was like a God from Mt. Vesuvius for me. I once saw him play Jingle Bells solo on his 13x9 Ludwig rack tom tom. How the hell do you do that? Anyway, he was a guy who would give you the shirt off his back in addition to being the damnedest drummer. Another guy that I want to mention is Louie Bellson. As I kid I saw him at drum clinics a couple of times at Jack’s Drum Shop in Boston. One time he did a clinic with Buddy Rich. Two pretty fair drummers. One of the other kids asked Buddy why he didn’t use two bass drums like Louie. Buddy said and I quote "Because I can do everything on one that he needs two to do!" Louie just laughed it off amiably and said it was true. And that story, I think underscores why the two greatest band leaders in jazz history, Duke Ellington and Count Basis, both said the best drummer they ever had in their band was Louie Bellson. He was always there in support of the band. Someone in this thread mentioned Davie Tough. In my opinion, no drummer could swing a big band better than he and he claimed in an interview that he didn’t even have a roll. Finally, I want to mention the late great Mel Lewis. He could do anything well. People have rightly acknowledged the contributions of Shelly Manne especially to West Coast Jazz and I think rightly so. In my opinion, Mel was his equal or better in every way.
Why I don't hear bass drums on Jazz LPs?
I don't hear the bass drums during playback of a number of jazz LPs (Webster, Hawkins, Ellington, etc). I have Thiel 3.6 speakers powdered by Mark Levinson 23.5 amp. I can isolate the sound of bass drums on rock/pop LPs but not on jazz LPs unless drummer play solo in the middle parts.
I read somewhere this has to do with size of the bass drums used in 40s, 50s and another explanation was the way drummer play bass drums. I can clearly isolate the double bass, snare drums, and cymbals on jazz LPs, but hardly the bass drum. Let me know your experience with this issue.