Why don't amplifier Companies use high end fuses?


My equipment - Raven Integrated Reflection MK2 tube amp 58wpc. / Lumin A-1 DAC Streamer / Synology NAS / Isotex Aquarius Power Conditioner / Furutech Rhodium Plug / Sonus Faber Amati Homage Tradition speakers.  

I have read thousands of comments on upgraded fuses improving the performance of sound.  I am very open minded but not sold either way.  So, the question I have is....if fuses were so important, than why don't Amplifier companies all install them as OEM equipment?  To me, if they are as good as people say, that would provide companies who use them a competitive advantage?  

Every High End Audio store I go to in Phoenix have told me it does not make a difference and is a waste of money.  For the record, I have fuses purchased at an automotive store for under $10 and I think my sound is awesome.  The Company that built my amp tested the Synergistic Fuses and he emphatically said there was no difference.  

If I were to try a fuse for fun, given my equipment, what would your recommendation be to try?  
willgolf

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The amplification of the signal is dependent on the power that comes into the unit. The cleaner the power, the cleaner the power available to amplify the signal.
@nonoise thanks, I’m not always so succinct. And it’s easy for me to be so when you’ve written a tome explaining everything first.

I do believe that a circuit breaker instead of an on/of switch would be the way to make this point moot. I think atmasphere was suggesting a different type of fuse, though. An industrial type that would require a different fuse holder. Both of these options are more than I want to do.

I just ordered some PADIS fuses... Thanks for the heads up. Parts connexion has HiFi tuning fuses on clearance right now, super cheap. Unfortunately they didn’t have the amperage I need, so I went with the PADIS. Not as cheap. But not as dear as the furutech.
Willgolf - turn off email notifications for Audiogon. Then your inbox will not be such a mess. You can always go to the 'related to you' section in your account to catch up on threads you're involved in. That's what I do. I hate managing endless emails...
Put the PADIS fuses in my class D monos. They definitely sound better already. Better clarity and imaging, smoother mids, cleaner bass. Very happy with these guys.

I'm sure it's just because I cleaned the contacts when I changed fuses. That and a bunch of expectation bias. 😝
I was just thinking about this today.. this obsession that some have with quantitative data. Do I like measurements? Heck yeah! If we can quantify something, that’s great, let’s use that data if it’s useful.
But if they’re is a large sample consisting of people whose subjective experiences all have common descriptions, that’s a valid data point, quantifiable or not. If a naysayer is not willing to suspend their judgement and perform the subjective test, then they aren’t understanding the argument. It’s like taking about evolution with a hard core fundamentalist ’Christian’. It’s never really a discussion, because they are patently unwilling to accept data that is foundational.
All these electrical engineering masters with hardly any posts coming out of the woodwork to school us on how we’re wasting our money.

What the dickens?
@kosst_amojan 
I didn't usually like to get involved in your and Geoff's love fests, but your statement about hospital grade outlets is incorrect.

From UL:  In addition to complying with the general use requirements, hospital grade receptacles are specially designed and are subject to additional requirements of the standards. These include additional grounding reliability, assembly integrity, strength and durability. 

As you can see, nothing about being explosion proof. All the literature indicates that hospital grade outlets are mostly differentiated from general use outlets by more robust construction and greater clamping force.

Carry on. And maybe don't be so quick to accuse Geoff of making stuff up when it seems you are not completely innocent yourself..